Ubuntu 10.04 – Perfect

10Six months ago I declared Ubuntu 9.10 to be the best version of Linux I had ever used on a desktop computer.  In fact, I went on to call it “almost perfect“.

But, and I hate to say this about any release of any Linux distribution — Ubuntu 9.10, no matter how good it was, really didn’t matter all that much.  Why, you ask?  Because Ubuntu 9.10 was not a “Long Term Support” release.

How it works is this:

Every six months a new version of Ubuntu is released.  That given release, 9.10 for example, is only supported for 18 months.  A year and a half of fixes for security vulnerabilities (among other things) is simply not long enough for most people to consider viable.

But every two years (give or take) we get a Long Term Support release of Ubuntu.  Those versions are supported and updated for a full 3 years.  Thus making it a possibility for businesses and the non-geek home users to consider installing on their desktops and laptops.

Ubuntu 10.04 is our first Long Term Support release since early 2008… and it feels long overdue.  And that is because desktop Linux has come a long, long way in the last two years.

Just to give you one great example: Those amazing 3D desktop effects we all know and love?  Those were not a part of Ubuntu 2 years ago.  That’s right.  Out of the box, Ubuntu in early 2008 was horrifyingly 2-Dimensional!

So Ubuntu 10.04 is important.  This is a release we are going to be “stuck” with (for many) for the next two years and is the release that many companies will measure up against Windows and MacOS X.

But how does it stack up?

The short answer: This is the best operating system currently available.

And here’s why.

desktopplacesLook and Feel

This is a huge improvement over past versions of Ubuntu.  Gone is the dreadful orange/brown theme of yesteryear.  In is the new, super smooth dark look and feel.

The new look of Ubuntu is classy.  Elegant.


I would call it far more pleasing to the eye (in an “ahhh, that’s soothing” sort of way) than Windows 7 or MacOS X 10.6.  Of course that is a purely subjective thing, but that’s my take after sitting in front of all of these operating systems every day.  Ubuntu 10.04 is just plain easier on the eye.  Almost… calming.

There have, of course, been some controversy around the new look.  Specifically the fact that the window buttons (close, minimize, etc.) have now been moved to the left side of the windows.  This… has made some people cranky.

I, myself, was one of those people.  I disliked the change.  But I am now used to it and consider it not a big deal.  It certainly isn’t a deal breaker.  In fact there are already tutorials for how to move those buttons back to the right hand side.

More Ubuntu One

05Ubuntu One, Canonical’s online file storage service (similar in many ways to services such as DropBox) has been integrated far more tightly in this new release.

It now auto-magically syncs your contacts, Tomboy notes and bookmarks across all of your Ubuntu powered machines.

And, of course, it still provides 2gb of free storage for every Ubuntu user.  (For $10 per month you can upgrade to 50gb of storage, syncing with mobile phones and Windows/Mac desktop applications).

In my testing (using the free version of Ubuntu One) this worked astoundingly well.  Syncing of data was incredibly fast and getting setup was a snap.

Will I be switching away from DropBox (which I have been a loyal customer of for some time)?  It’s looking that way.

The Ubuntu Software Center

appstoreThis is the big one for me.

I’ve often lamented about the lack of a good, easy to use software store application for modern Linux distributions.  This is, I feel, one of the biggest things that can be done to further Linux as a desktop platform.

And with Ubuntu 10.04… it’s not here yet.

But it’s getting closer.  With this release, the Ubuntu Software Center has become my favorite way to find and install new software.  It’s fast.  The user interface is clean and easy to navigate.  Finding new applications is incredibly easy.  Certainly a huge improvement over solutions such as Synaptic.

The public plan was that the ability to purchase commercial (non-Free) software via the Ubuntu Software Center with the Ubuntu 10.10 release later this year.  And, if their progress with 10.04 is any indication, they seem to be right on track.

And that has me excited.

The Ubuntu One Music Store

musicstoreContinuing on the theme of expanded Ubuntu One services, Canonical has introduced the Ubuntu One Music Store.

The prices are reasonable (typically seeming a little cheaper than iTunes), and the files are all provided in DRM-free MP3 format.

In an interesting twist, when you purchase songs from the Ubuntu Music Store, those songs are download directly into your Ubuntu One online storage.  Which makes all of your music available on all of your Ubuntu-powered PC’s without needing to manually re-download or copy over your music.

Which is, I must say, fairly cool.  Plus, the store seems to work great.  Good speed.  Good sound quality.

My only gripe?  The Ubuntu One Music Store is built in to Rhythmbox.  Now, I like Rhythmbox, don’t get me wrong.  It’s a good music player.  Does the job.  I just prefer Banshee so much more.

Social Networking

socialLets talk for a moment about the new “Me Menu”.

By default it sits in the upper right hand side of your screen.  And, from there, you have quick access to your instant messaging accounts (via Empathy, my favorite little IM client).

That, by itself, is nice.  Not earth shattering.  But handy enough to be worth while.

But you’ll also notice a “Broadcast Accounts…” option there.  From this one spot you can post updates (simultaneously) to Twitter, Facebook, FriendFeed and more.

Once set up you will also receive message alerts from these services in the form of nice looking system notifications.  Plus, with the pre-loaded Gwibber, you can directly interact with all of these services.

This takes Ubuntu from being a totally acceptable platform for interacting with social media (on par with Windows or MacOS X)… to become the platform for interacting with social media.  The other platforms don’t even come close.

It is simple, elegant and very well designed.

Working with Media

pitiviUbuntu has been great at managing photos for quite some time. F-Spot is a fantastic application for this task (and integrates awesomely with Facebook, Flickr, Picasa and more).

But video editing.  That’s another story altogether.

Before now, Ubuntu has not shipped with any way to edit video.  And that is, due in large part, because there simply was not a good consumer oriented video editor, built for Linux, to include.

Thankfully, that has changed.

PiTiVi is now included, by default, in Ubuntu 10.04.

Sure.  PiTiVi isn’t the most advanced video editor on the planet.  But it’s capable, well designed and will serve the needs of the individuals who need to edit together some family video quite nicely.

Interesting to note: As of this very moment, MacOS X 10.6 and Windows 7.  Neither of them ship with a video editor of any kind out of the box.  That’s right.  Of the three operating systems, Ubuntu is the only one that ships with any video editor at all.

The Rest

Most of the rest of Ubuntu 10.04 is pretty much what you might already be used to with previous versions.

You get a full office suite with Open Office 3.2, the latest version of Firefox, great CD/DVD burning tools and a handful of games that are completely adequate (though improved over past releases).

The Bad

Are there problems?  You betcha.

There have been reports of many people having significant trouble upgrading from past Ubuntu releases.  We’ve also heard several reports of display driver issues causing a fair number of issues.

So it certainly hasn’t been a 100% painless upgrade.

That said, I’ve got three machines in front of me (including two netbooks) running Ubuntu 10.04 with 100% support for every device attached to them.  Wifi, video card, webcam… everything has been working and running great.

Oh my HP Mini 1000 netbook I had to enable restricted hardware drivers (a simple checkbox) to get my wireless working.  But that’s been the extent of my “tweaking” to get things running smoothly.  Both of my other machines worked 100% on first boot.

But, and this can’t be stressed enough, if you are upgrading to Ubuntu 10.04: Back up your data first.  It looks, based on feedback so far, that things are mostly going smoothly.  But it’s always best to play it safe.

The Final Verdict

Ubuntu 10.04 ups the ante significantly by bringing polished features that Windows 7 and MacOS X users simply do not have.

The user experience is clean and elegant, with an almost timeless quality to it.  The functionality is advanced and the integration between applications superb.

Add to this the fact that Ubuntu 10.04 has 3 years of full support ahead of it, and I’d say, with out a doubt…

Ubuntu 10.04 is, by far, the best operating system for desktops, laptops and netbooks available today. I highly recommend this release both both personal and business use.  For existing Linux users, Mac users or Windows users.

This is a big freaking deal.

This is not a matter of “one day, Linux will be ready for the desktop”.  Nor is this a hopeful proclamation of “This year… this year will be the year of desktop Linux”.

This is it.  This release, of this particular Linux distribution, is astounding and competitive with both Windows and Mac.  No.  Strike that.

Ubuntu 10.04 blows them out of the water.

Sunday, the 2nd, we’ll be recording our video review of Ubuntu 10.04 for the Linux Action Show.  Feel free to join us live and take part in the discussion.

In the meantime: Go.  Download Ubuntu.

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189 Responses to “Ubuntu 10.04 – Perfect”

  1. Brad Kelley says:

    Great review, I had no issues on my upgrade. Everthing worked and it found my drivers for my nvidia card out of the box. Great release!

    Thanks for the review,

  2. Mike-Linux-NL says:

    Installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on my Asus K50ij notebook. A small downside is, that they still have not build in a fix to flip the webcam around, because mine is upside down.

    sure, there are some nasty fixes as a workaround, but people were having these issues since 8.04. You would have expected that they would have build in a solution already in the new Ubuntu.

    The preferences of the build-in Gwibber could have been a bit more detaild with more options, like font selection, more themes, tabs on either side etc.

    The overall experience of the new version is pretty good, allthough i had to switch the layout of the windowbuttons, cause the i keep messing up the maximize and minimize.

    Boot time is very fast. fastest one yet on any ubuntu install i had.

  3. James says:

    Desktop effects aren’t new; Ubuntu was the first major distro to ship with Compiz turned on by default, starting with 7.10. Yes, that was three years ago.

    If your graphics drivers sucked, the installer may have disabled it.

  4. James says:

    Err, two and a half. Math fail.

  5. Aaron Fournier says:

    I love this release of Ubuntu! I am having some issues with display that is probably related to the ones you mentioned other people are having after upgrading. If the issues persist, I’ll probably just do a clean install.

    On a side not, I heard Banshee will be getting a plugin for the Ubuntu One Music Store, so keep a lookout for that :)

  6. Børge A. Roum / forteller says:

    There is already a plugin integrating Ubuntu One Music Store in Banshee: banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore. You’ll find it in the Software Center.

    I hope you’ll start using the built in social software and set it to post to both Twitter and Identi.ca simultaneously (or only to Identi.ca which you then set to automatically send it to Twitter). And how about changing your nick on Identi.ca to match your nick everywhere else..? :)

  7. Killar says:

    Great review. I can’t wait to try this on my eee.

    Looking forward to tomorrows show.

  8. Brad Kelley says:

    On thing that they always leave out is DVD playback. I know, there are legal issues, but really it only is 2 lines away.
    sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
    sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh

    Really cant they just include this?


  9. Abraham says:

    @Brad, They simply can’t in the US without martyring themselves. It’s got nothing to do with two lines or a million lines. The patent laws in the US simply don’t allow it. If you live in a country with obsense software patent laws you should write to your government representative.

  10. Paul says:

    Minor nitpick.

    The boot time is so fast I *never* see the loading screen when I turn on my computer.

    Not that I’m complaining, of course!

  11. stunt says:

    Steam for Mac is going to come out at the 12th of May. I think that the Linux client might come soonish as well. At that day, I will start to seriously use my Ubuntu 10.04 Installation at home.

  12. Paul says:

    Back in 9.10 I thought the boot-up was already pretty fast: glowing white Ubuntu icon, then the brown Ubuntu spotlight as it sets up the user interface.

    Nowadays with 10.04, I don’t even see the loading screens anymore — it just boots straight to the desktop.

    Not that I’m complaining, of course! :-)

  13. Daniel says:

    Mac doesn’t come with a video editor? Uh… imovie. How ill informed is this review? Windows comes with windows movie maker. How is it perfect if it’s still facing the same driver problems that have bogged down every linux desktop ever?

    It doesn’t seem perfect and the GUI doesn’t look nearly as polished as OS X, sorry.

  14. Chuck Smith says:

    Yeah, a really polished distro. I’m glad it’s not so ‘brown’ as previous releases, but why the pseudo-mac look with the UI?

  15. Frans says:

    My Windows XP came with Windows Movie Maker, which was really a neat application except for the fact that it always tried to get you to produce WMV and it didn’t allow for a sufficient number of audio tracks. Microsoft removed that from Windows 7? That sounds like a horrible decision, seeing how it was about the only application included by default (among the likes of Notepad, Wordpad, Paint, Internet Explorer, etc., etc.) that was actually usable. I haven’t used PiTiVi yet, but it roughly seems like Windows Movie Maker without the flaws. I would’ve expected Microsoft to ship Windows 7 with something very similar to that (i.e. Windows Movie Maker with a few improvements).

    Regarding the upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, I had to remove the ubuntu-desktop meta package before Ubuntu would upgrade itself. Of course I wouldn’t recommend anyone do this unless they’re prepared to install fresh if something messes up because of this, but in my case it went fine.

  16. MrCorey says:

    Cool. The “meh” brown and orange theme was replaced by a garish purple and orange one. On upgrade, sound is still broken on my 7-year-old hardware. After I changed back my preference of media player from Totem (why did they override my decision???) and set the audiosink back to ALSA (after removing Pulse Audio – yes, I reinstalled it to give it a chance on upgrade), its a slightly faster 9.10. Since I used a theme that I got off Gnome-look, toggling through the window decorations changed the buttons back to the right, where they should have stayed. Now, to hack notify-osd to show the intrusive popups on the bottom right,where they should have been put…

  17. Cleere says:

    I love your enthusism, but I cannot agree the latest version of Ubuntu is perfect. A perfect version of Ubuntu would allow for much tighter integration with a flexible array of web services out of the box.

    For instance, I’d like to be able to link a inbuilt task management system a online task management service out of the box. I’d like to have my calendar perfectly synced with Google Calendar or a competitor calendar out of the box. I would like an operating system that took advantage of IMAP Push. I’d like to be able to instruct my operating system to do all this in an operation that takes no more than one minute with no need for hacking.

    On the comment about the look of Ubuntu. I really have to disagree. If I had seen that theme on gnome-look I would have ignored it very quickly regardless of where the window action buttons were. It doesn’t look like it has been designed with a strong sense of the user in mind. It feels like one of the dev team had a really big love for the idea and the other developers were too busy doing ‘more important’ things to stop him. The heart of its weakness though – gnome. They really need to make it their own as gnome (by their own admission) have lost all direction since the last major release.

  18. David says:

    I Must admit I read about Ubuntu 10.04. there was a download link there. downloaded it. burned it with image burn. installed it on my laptop running Windows XP Professional.
    the install was flawless. I have never ever tried this before. my new operating system. is the best. Now after a day of snooping around in this os I will be wiping the hard drive clean and doing a clean install. simple. I’m Hooked

  19. Jordi Boggiano says:

    I generally agree with what you said, but this line made me want to puke: “The user experience is clean and elegant, with an almost timeless quality to it.”. I mean seriously, clean and elegant? Compared to the average nerdy linux stuff, I guess it is, but in absolute terms it is still very clunky and wasteful of screen estate imo.

    Also things like a mouse with 5 buttons that will work any day in windows as soon as you plug it in, still do not seem to work well in ubuntu10.4. I guess I’ll manage to fix it, but sorry I can’t recommend that to my mom yet.

    Multiple monitor support is also still a pain, you plug it in nothing happens, no notification whatsoever. Maybe it depends on the drivers, maybe not, but this needs improvement. If every linux guy coming in a conference takes 5mins to plug in the goddamn beamer to his machine, it’s a huge PR fail.

    Anyway I’m liking it overall, but it’s way too early for the “perfect” label.

  20. André Bergonse says:

    I’m new to the linux world and decided to try out the latest Ubuntu release. I didn’t want to mess up with my partitions and make a dual boot with Windows 7 so I installed it under Virtualbox using hardware virtualization. I must say I’m impressed with the performance and the looks (compiz is awesome)!

  21. Chxta says:

    When will there be a plugin for Amarok14 and the Ubuntu store?

  22. arsnic says:

    Actually, the part about being the only new OS with video editing is wrong. MacOS X, if you bought a mac, so not a hack’n tosh, has iMovie straight away and while Windows 7 doesn’t come with a movie editor, Windows ME, XP, and Vista all did. I’m not sure what changed with Windows 7. And I agree that the new Ubuntu interface is very appealing to the eye but it has taken far to long to get there. Don’t get me wrong I love Ubuntu which is why I have one Mac, one Windows (wish I didn’t need it), and 3 Ubuntu machines. What I really would like to see is the ability to run MacOS and Ubuntu side by side without permissions problems, nightmare…

  23. Jason says:

    My biggest issue with ubuntu is networking. It won’t see computers on my network. Certainly won’t see my WHS box. OSX sees it just fine but for the life of me I can’t get ubuntu to see. Posted on the official forums and never got a response.

  24. Leif Andersen says:

    I completely agree. However, there are a few things I must point out. First of all, you said that the last LTS didn’t have 3d graphics (compiz), it did. Also, it had the same type of options that this version has, non-simple-uberSpecialPretty, and you had to install the ‘Advance Special Effects’ manager to unlock it’s full potential.

    As for your usability, etc. I agree. I haven’t used ubuntu-one too much, and I don’t want to use the music store (partially because I hate rythembox (crashed, etc.), but also because I’m not that big of a fan of music (well, most music anyway)). But I have had a few problems with ubuntu, two big ones to be precise:

    1. My sound doesn’t work out of the box. This isn’t a problem due to lack of drivers, they are there…they’re just mis-configured. I filed two bug reports on this, after the first one was incorrectly merged, and then abandoned. In the end, even though I showed them possible fixes, and it was fixed upstream, it never got put into the actual version of ubuntu, sigh. I ranted about this on my website: http://leifandersen.net/2010/04/23/cry-of-frustration-i-want-my-sound-to-work/

    2. The other one is a real pain. I have an i3 processor, and whenever I enable the 3d graphics, my system becomes unstable, crashing every 2 hours or so. So I have to turn it on. Not only does it make the system look less pretty (well, static images look exactly the same, but transitions, not so much), but the real kicker is that the nice compiz magnifier isn’t an option, which I use ofter as I have poor vision.

    The one and only other grip I have, is that the top menu bar (as with every other version of gnome-based-linux I’ve tried), has gotten screwed up, and it’s a pain to have to fix it. That’s about the only time I like the Apple-style ‘we’re not going to let you customize your computer’ way of thinking.

    All in all I agree. I’m also exited for the software store. Which I’m hoping, as a developer, it will allow me to easily make applications for ubuntu.

  25. Bryan says:

    MacOS X does not ship with iMovie. Apple bundles and pre-loads (some) of the Mac’s it sells with a copy of iLife, which includes iMovie. If you buy a copy of MacOS X, no iMovie.

    And Windows does not ship with Windows Movie Maker. It used to. Now it does not.

    So my statement stands. Ubuntu is the -only- one of the three that ships with any video editor.

  26. Mohan says:

    Hey Bryan, I would like to point out that you can install the UbuntuOne Music store plugin for Banshee. It works just as it does in Rhythmbox in my experience.

  27. Jason says:

    Bryan, apple ships ilife on ALL macs it sells. While windows does not ship with movie maker anymore, it is a free download.

  28. Adam Wright says:

    “So my statement stands. Ubuntu is the -only- one of the three that ships with any video editor.”; true, but a technicality. There is no way to own a Mac in the last 7 years and *not* have iMovie (it comes with the Mac, and the only way to be running OS X is to have a Mac). It’s also hard to say “the integration between applications [is] superb” when you yourself complain that the Music store is tied to an app you don’t like

    I run Ubuntu, on a headless desktop. I’m not sure I can agree that “Ubuntu 10.04 is, by far, the best operating system for desktops, laptops and netbooks available today”. The last time I did a dist-upgrade, Ubuntu *broke my machine* (i.e. it wouldn’t boot without manually editing grub list). The next kernel upgrade *broke my network card* (i.e. it would hard-lock the network driver when transferring above 100Mbps). When setting up a laptop for a work collegue who’d chosen Ubuntu, we ended up giving up on sound, which just refused to work. I won’t be quick to ever do a dist-upgrade again, and as we can see by the other comments, this type of problem is not isolated nor fixed in 10.04. I can’t recommend Ubuntu to anyone who isn’t highly technically proficient until these problems are at least rare, preferably unheard of.

    Your enthusiasm for the OS is great, but I think it’s fair to acknowledge that, for most people, Ubuntu desktop is still not suitable. I set my parents up with a Mac, and just tell them “Say yes to the Software Upgrade window”; in 3 years, they’ve never had a problem (same story for 2 brothers and 3 work colleagues). In 18 months running Ubuntu, I’ve had 2 huge problems. I don’t doubt there are cases where everything works fine, but whilst It’ll be a little while yet before one can really claim without sarcasm that this is “the best operating system for desktops, laptops and netbooks available today”.

  29. Travis says:

    I love Ubuntu 10.04 so much, I want to marry it! lol. But seriously, I’m a new user. I actually just installed 9.10 last week on my parents XP box after they got their 20th+ Trojan, except this one was so bad I could not root out. So I went and got Ubuntu hoping and praying it would work and they would like it. It worked, barring their printer, but then 10.04 came out only 3 days after my original install, so I reformated, put 10.04 on, found the proper .deb printer drivers and got it working in an instant. Now it does everything they want flawlessy and I tell them “you never have to worry about viruses again” they are so happy and so relieved.

    Now for me, I love that damn operating system. I’m a lifelong Windows user and a gamer, but I will literally sit and just look at that OS, I muttered to myself a few days back “this thing is perfect” while it automatically found codecs I needed and then went back to that majestic, stunning desktop. It is a crazy thing to say, but I really can just look at it and be amazed. MS and Apple don’t get it, this thing beats them so bad and in so many ways, they don’t even know.

    Now the only thing stopping me from deleting windows and installing this on every single one of my systems is gaming. I am a big PC gamer, always have been. I know Steam is coming out for Mac and that means we may get better support, that is a start, many of my games are on steam, but not all of them. In my mind, the last thing, the only thing stopping this otherwise perfect OS is gaming. If there were better support from game makers or if Wine became more amazing and it would play most games, new ones, even those without steam, I’d never touch windows again.

  30. TripleThreat says:

    iMovie does not come with OS X.

    Well, use some logic will you?
    If you are buying OS X then you already own a Mac, and as such you already have iMovie as it’s pre-installed, and on the discs that come with the computer. With a little command line work one can extrapolate an individual install of any part of iLife.

    Your argument is moot, and iMovie is the best included movie editing software of the three by a long shot. PUN!

  31. TripleThreat says:

    BTW: I do love Ubuntu and your article was well written. As soon as I can I will be downloading and installing it on one of my three partitions.


  32. Dolly says:

    I did my own upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 today and I found that it ran amazingly well. There is no hiccups, not to mention, wireless ran fine throughout the entire installation.

    There were a couple of changes, but so far these were either manageable, or for the better. Therefore, I do see myself using Linux more often now onwards.

    The only drawback is support for Windows applications. Some of them can’t run natively on Linux, e.g. MS Office 2007, without having to use emulators, etc.

  33. Bryan says:

    Saying that iMovie comes with the computer rather than the OS really seems like splitting hairs. Is there any situation in which I might have a Mac legitimately running OS X and not have iMovie (aside from me intentionally deleting it)? No.

  34. Rob Ristroph says:

    This is a very depressing review. Do you buy cars by walking into the dealership and asking for something red with at least 6 cupholders ?

    The color scheme, look and feel, button location, and etc are all changable as you note. We should focus on teaching people how to change them, although that is secondary to teaching them how to do real work on Ubuntu, block ads and tracking cookies, etc.

    As for having an app that updates TwitSpaceBookIn all at once, probably no one should ever do that.

    I can see the usefulness of Canonical’s online storage, but not so much as integrated exclusively into Ubuntu – it has to work from everything. I might buy the paid account. But that is a separate product from the Ubuntu release.

    And the paid app store is frankly deplorable. Linux has been a great opportunity to teach people about self-education, self-relability, and how to be independent from what ever the magazine and TV ads are pushing – it sounds like for many, the Free aspects of Linux will matter no more to them than it does to Apple fanboys that the core of MacOSX is BSD. Is Ubuntu going to become a cheaper MacOSX with slightly fewer “Give Me Money!” pop ups ?

    I think overall you are bringing a bad name to Ubuntu with this review, and you need to set aside the computer for a few days and re-think the overall point why you use it at all.

  35. Mc says:

    “……Ubuntu 10.04 is, by far, the best operating system for desktops, laptops and netbooks available today……”

    sigh, these linux fanboys….

  36. Michelle says:

    Still looking for a review that makes sense for IT admins. I don’t care if my users can have access to music or social networking. Features that apply to me is good multiple monitor support, ability to mount file servers (CIFS or NTFS), integration into AD. But no one ever writes a review on that.

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  38. Shailesh says:

    Agreed! Ubuntu is definitely the coolest OS out there as of today.

  39. vasiauvi says:

    Yeah, I’m using Ubuntu since 8.04 version and until now I didn’t had such bad experience with it!
    My impression is that with every release is getting heavy and slow!But maybe I’m the only one…maybe not!

    Now I’m on Windows because after upgrading to Lucid I have problems!http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466794

    Maybe someone has an idea!!

  40. Tom L says:

    There also is a Brasero issue that makes it such that the burn CD button in Rhythmbox does absolutely nothing. That’s a bit of a hassle for me, a deal-breaker for some “average” computer users, and keeps the release from being perfect. I still do love it, though.

  41. Bilal Aslam says:

    I’m already downloading it…. Bye bye Windows…

  42. Lee says:

    I upgraded recently and I love it. Everything works fine and I LOVE the new broadcast feature. Firmly recommend the update to anyone already running Ubuntu and if you are not then what are you waiting for.

  43. Bryan says:

    For the MacOS X / iLife debate that seems to be going:

    Apple’s Pro-level hardware have often (even within the last few years) not shipped with iLife. The net result is that, when updating to latest OS -without- buying new hardware, you would have to also buy iLife to get iMovie.

    Also worth noting: Even if you bought a Mac that DID come with iLife… when you upgrade your OS you have an older version. With Ubuntu, you get the latest version of the video editor suite available.

    The point stands. :)

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  46. Dave says:

    “Apple’s Pro-level hardware have often (even within the last few years) not shipped with iLife.”

    Wrong, wrong, wrong. What is your source for this claim? iLife is always included with the purchase of any new Mac. And in fact, iMovie was originally offered as a FREE download (“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilife”).

    “Also worth noting: Even if you bought a Mac that DID come with iLife… when you upgrade your OS you have an older version. With Ubuntu, you get the latest version of the video editor suite available.”

    Nice straw man argument. Of course you have to pay for an upgraded piece of software (iLife), just like you have to pay for an upgraded operating system (OSX). Do you expect Apple to upgrade all of your installed apps for free when you upgrade your os?

    “The point stands.”

    Um, no – not really. Your claim was that Apple computers (by way of Mac OSX) don’t ship with a video editor. Your claim was shown to be false.

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  48. Bryan says:

    Dave: Seriously? My old G5? Didn’t come with iLife. At the same time, iMac’s did. My wifes MacBook Pro? Didn’t come with iLife. At the same time, entry level MacBook’s did. That’s just how it worked. Wasn’t always advertised, but that’s the way it was.

    Plus. Still stands. MacOS X does not ship with a video editor. You pay $80 extra for that (whether you are buying the retail box, or the bundled version). (Not that I think paying for software is bad at all… quite the contrary, obviously. But, in this case, it presents a significant feature disparity.)

    It’s not a knock against Apple. Just a significant plus I see for Ubuntu.

  49. Leif Andersen says:

    I think all of the Macbooks and iMacs come with iLife. However, I’m not sure about the Mac Pros. Either way, when comparing what a ‘mac’ has, to what ‘ubuntu’ has, you’re comparing apples to buckets…not the same category. I think Bryan was right to compare Ubuntu to OS X. What would be a fair comparison is to compare Macs to say, System76.

  50. Dave says:

    “Dave: Seriously? My old G5? Didn’t come with iLife. At the same time, iMac’s did. My wifes MacBook Pro? Didn’t come with iLife. At the same time, entry level MacBook’s did. That’s just how it worked. Wasn’t always advertised, but that’s the way it was.”

    You must have gotten ripped off then.
    G5 – “http://web.archive.org/web/20030801083231/www.apple.com/powermac/specs.html”

    Macbook Pro – “http://web.archive.org/web/20060202073809/www.apple.com/macbookpro/whatsinside.html”

    Please note that iLife (including iMovie) is included. Not sure how you got two Macs with iMovie intentionally disabled.

    If you want to split hairs and say that OS X does not include a video editor, then fine – you’re right. However, if you’ve purchased a Mac since 2000, you’ve had (by way of a free download or pre-installation) a VERY capable editor.

    I’m not interested in a ‘Mac vs. Ubuntu’ debate or feature point comparison; I just think its disingenuous to misinform your readers about the value propositions included in both a Mac purchase and an Ubuntu installation.

  51. Bryan says:

    Leif makes an excellent point. Comparing additional (non-OS) software pre-loaded onto Macintosh hardware to Ubuntu doesn’t make much sense.

    MacOS X : Ubuntu :: Mac Hardware Bundles : System 76 Hardware Bundles

  52. HB says:

    Yesterday I installed Ubuntu 10.04 in a VM on OS 10.6. I’m not new to either Linux, Windows or Mac. I was installing various shades of Linux back in the nineties.
    First, there is no perfect OS. That was established years ago.
    The closest thing to a really good OS is OS X.

    After all these years, speaking in general, Linux just can’t get things to work out of the box. Ubuntu is pretty (I guess) but its all form over function.
    Networking sucks, (Google how to set up a share) common things like Flash are not installed by default and the most commonly used software is (and probably never will be) ported to it. Adobe is the best example.

    Once a year or so I install some distro just to see how much progress has been made in usability. If I still have to edit files from the command line, not a lot of progress has been made.

    In the end, Ubuntu is far from the best distro for newbies. And nowhere near unseating Apple or Microsoft. Its still nice to look at, but will drive many insane trying to get something that should be simple to work. Hell, you can’t even do a simple update for Firefox.

    So, fire away about how great it is. I don’t care.

  53. Petrus says:

    Unfortunately, Brian, the positive stuff that you mention here, doesn’t really amount to much more than a catalogue of superficiality. A music store might be nice, but it’s also pure fluff.

    It’s also interesting that the one point that (for me at least) is of genuine relevance, (stability) gets mentioned in your negative category.

    Maybe I’m just being pessimistic, though. After all, I’m sure Paris Hilton is likely to be thrilled with the new release.

  54. Grim says:

    I’ve been a huge fan of Ubuntu since ’95, despite not being anything like a geek. I have to say however, I’ve always had problems with upgrades; probably because I’m not a geek, and this one was no exception.
    For some reason, my setup just hates ext4. My relatively new sata drive reported bad sectors, and my upgraded partition was suddenly unbootable. I did a clean install on a spare partition specifying ext3, and apart from not being able to use 1024 resolution, I love it.
    The big advantage of Ubuntu for me is being able to run several OS’s on the one computer, free of charge. For some time now, I have had 2 Ubuntu installs, and always leapfrog the upgrades. For instance, from 9.04 to 9.10, they dropped support for PwManager and I would have lost all my passwords; big nono.
    I find this strategy much simpler and more convenient than backups and reinstalls.

  55. Grim says:

    typo, should have been ’05, not ’95. Oops.

  56. frederic says:

    ubuntu 10.04 final doesn’t boot on my machine. i tried 32 and 64 bit, i tried wubi, i tried usb – it just doesn’t. beta 1 did… well, nice to see it works good for most people but i’m sick of it. every six month something else doesn’t work and in every distro something different doesn’t work. i love linux but i learned to hate it even more.

  57. steve says:

    Very nice review. Got installed on a few pcs and is awesome

  58. aikiwolfie says:

    Perfect? Not as far as I’m concerned. It’s certainly the best version of Ubuntu yet to be pushed out by Canonical. But perfect it’s not.

    My first and major gripe is the software stack. Gimp is gone. I like Gimp. I use Gimp a lot. After installing my new OS I will now need to install another application. One of the great strengths of Linux distributions has always been the excellent default software stack. Personally I think this is now being eroded somewhat in Ubuntu. The Gimp was a staple of the Linux desktop software stack. It was a professional quality application which was getting better and easier to use with every version. Removing it was a mistake.

    Over reliance on Mono based applications like Fspot is going to come back and bite Canonical on the rear one day.

    Key items of software are still not installed by default. Lets take MP3 codecs, the Java plug-in for Firefox and Flash. Canonical has free access to this software. Most if not all of it is available in the “Restricted Extras” repository. So just what is it that’s stopping Canonical taking that final step?

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  60. aikiwolfie says:

    The Software Centre is my other gripe. It’s too slow! In my experience the Ubuntu Software Centre has never been a fast easy simple way to install software. It’s horrifically slow.

    With Add/Remove we ticked off a list of what we wanted to install. Clicked a button, entered our password and away it went about it’s business of downloading and installing all the software we asked for all at once.

    Now with Software Centre we have select and install each application individually. Certainly the Software Store can que up the install requests. But it just doesn’t feel as responsive. Once there are one or two apps in the que, Software Centre starts getting lethargic. Which is really irritating.

    The only light at the end of the tunnel here is the promise of being able to buy non-free software at some point. Add/Remove has no concept of a plug-in. So it would have needed to be rewritten anyway. But there’s still a lot of work to be done on the Ubuntu Software Centre before I’ll be happy with it.

    Apt-get is still the fastest way to install software from the repositories.

  61. Zac says:

    I like it very much, it is certainly getting there. I am very happy with Ubuntu 10.04. It looks very classly. Nice review Brian.

    I have a Dell Latitude 2100 netbook and I have installed Ubuntu 10.04 netbook edition. Everything worked perfectly out of the box – wifi excellent performance, bluetooth, webcam, trackpad, hibernate, etc. It looks fantastic, and performs extremely well. The only hitch is that I don’t get the lovely boot splash, no big deal, it starts is 25 secs anyway, alot quicker than the 9.04 version which the netbook had on there. Oh, the desktop edition worked out od the box to, it just that the netbook edition I get more vertical screen space.

    In the Software Centre, I like how the other software sources are listed down the side, and I’m looking forward to see what they do with the Software Centre in the future.

    With UbuntuOne it is still early days yet, and it’s only going to get better.

    The features they added here are only going to improve, it is not static.

    Thanks for the review. Of course there are the usual anti Ubuntu people who think whining about Ubuntu will drive people to their distro, but unfortunately it makes them look like whining kids. What they don’t understand is that behaving this way hurts the whole of Linux, it just doesn’t help. And those people don’t realise that this is not the final version of Ubuntu, the features they added here are going to improve. For eg, the Software Centre, some of are talking that this is the end of it, it’s not, have some vision and understand what going on.

  62. Pedant says:

    Something cannot both be perfect AND have flaws, several of which you outlined.

  63. GavinB says:

    What netbooks will run Lucid along with all the 3D whizbang features ? You mentioned the HP Mini. How about the EEE PC, Toshiba etc… ? I don’t want to struggle with missing drivers etc. Thanks a lot

  64. orb9220 says:

    Tho I am all for Ubuntu being a success. For many it will never be their main OS and for other’s will do fine.

    I was quite active since Dapper until about Feisty. And just got tired of updates breaking things and having to use a terminal and enter cryptic commands to fix. I even had a text file on the desktop to collect all the different commands. As I sure in the hell can’t remember them being an old fart.

    Also found the other issue is. Doesn’t matter how great the OS is. As if it doesn’t have a selection of mature apps to make it usable then for the average user it is a No-Go situation. I needed mature Image Editing,tagging,organizing for my photography. I needed Video conversion,editing,etc.. and what was available for linux was appalling. Immature feature set,clunky Gui’s,etc…

    I did want Lucid Lynx to work. As I summited images and two of my images for desktop wallpapers and they were selected. And are include with the distro. And am honored to give back to the community. Also spent a year in the forums learning and sharing and helping newbies like myself.

    But the sad part is. I installed it now having lockup,freeze problems due to more than likely ati 4200 onboard video? But the other issues are. That I am still seeing little in the way of stability. If I download a app from the repositories. I expect it to work. Well couple of hrs ago I needed a gmail notifier so installed gmail notifier works? kinda tho selecting a wav file for audio doesn’t work. Guessing here tray app using alsa? and now broken due to Pulse? so have to wait months or months and still may never be fixed? So now the so called stable repo’s are broken? And you flip a coin if it will work? Install with all dependencies? Also Info on program descriptions are vague in age and newness and details on how the program works. Which is my other pet peeve with developers and their lack of writing docs.

    Sorry I love the OS and hope for it’s success and bring much happiness to the many. But the lack of selection for apps in the Image Editing and Video is sorely lacking. That I have to pass as my main OS.

  65. Bryan says:

    GavinB – The Eee 900 and the HP Mini 1000 are both working great here with full 3D. The netbook compatibility list here is still mostly up to date: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks

    Pedant – Huh. Yes. That’s true. How… pedantic of you.

    Petrus – I certainly wouldn’t call the new functionality “fluff”. Heck, most releases of recent versions of MacOS X and Windows 7 had far less in terms of new features listed. Tight integration of social networking alone is a pretty huge feature that, if this were a MacOS X release, would account for half of the bullet points on the box.

  66. js says:

    Thank you for posting your opinion about 9.10 at the beginning of this post. That told me the rest of the post wasn’t worth reading. 9.10 was the second worst linux I’d ever used and drove me back to Debian.

  67. Hellscreamgold says:

    Your article has a falsehood – Unbuntu One does not currently support windows clients.

    This is directly from their FAQ on the one.unbunto.com site.

  68. Hellscreamgold says:

    Ubuntu 10.04 blows them out of the water.

    I also like the comment above.

    Until new game releases – not the crappy open source ones, but all the major Windows games released every month – come out with Linux versions, none of it matters.

  69. peter says:

    I have always wanted to be able to say ‘Ubuntu is fantastic and will replace Windows for me’, but unfortunately I still cannot say that.

    People are loving the new theme for some reason. I was not impressed. Colours are ugly, I switched to something else instantly, yuk.

    But more importantly I have a canon PIXMA IP1000, and it won’t work out of the box. Not very impressive – easier to load up windows when I need the printer. I looked around the net, and installed a driver but it didn’t work. Have seen some guides to installing that printer which are pages long of command line stuff. Can’t be bothered – not worth the effort.

    I also sync my ipod with windows. I don’t have time to muck around searching out solutions under ubuntu for problems like this which will likely be half arsed when it just works with windows.

    I also installed a settlers of catan application. The graphics were terrible. Things have to look polished for the general population to accept it – geeks and the general population seem to have different expectations.

    The problem is that some people have the time to work out things like this and can handle stuff that doesn’t look quite right. I don’t. I have windows installed and everything just works without effort. The same cannot be said about Ubuntu.

  70. peter says:

    By the way I do like Ubuntu, and it is great for browsing the internet and stuff like that, but for me it is not at the stage of replacing windows.

    Things are fast / solid, and the architecture of Ubuntu / Linux seems really good. But some things just don’t work out of the box.

    One day when I quit IT, and am not required to use Windows anymore I will try to use Ubuntu exclusively.

    Also a big part of it is ‘can I give this to my wife’. The answer is no.

  71. Scott says:

    Bryan, It always seemed to me that in the past Ubuntu picked the ‘wrong’ release for a LTS. That somehow some of the other six month releases were less problematic and more stable and unfortunately not the LTS.

    But this time 10.04 feels like both the best release, and in time for the LTS. What do you think?

  72. jur9en says:

    I have an Asus Eeepc netbook (1001HA): Still with Ubuntu 10.04 -same as with 9.10- wireless, microphone, hibernate and multi-touch on the trackpad not working out of the box.

    When something is not working with Ubuntu it is a major headache to try and fix it: you run into hundreds of user posts on forums, some outdated and some with so much lingo and incomplete instructions, that you quickly get discouraged. Hibernate and sound/midi drivers seems to be a recurring theme which upsets a lot of people in the Ubuntu community; lots of people with problems.

  73. Me says:

    See this I don’t get, they took out GIMP as a default app, but put in a complex video editor instead? Complexity was their ‘gripe’ with GIMP, wasn’t it? Bah.

    This release looks great I’ll give them that, sadly as many have noted before me, it’s shaping up to become a very consumerist distro. That comes with good things as well as bad. Myself, I’m super-happy with Debian :-)

  74. NoGeek says:

    As a user I made the jump to Ubuntu about a year ago (?)… has it been that long?

    I don’t miss Windows much. I run a computer support service, so I have to keep up on Windows somewhat, and especially Windows 7, but other than that I am a full-time Ubuntu user.

    Linux, and Ubuntu, have made significant progress over the last 2-3 years. Ubuntu is the perfect OS for anyone with a desire for a stable, functional, beautiful, and secure computing experience.

  75. RobC says:

    Perfect? Try plugging a USB stick in with a fresh install and see what happens (hint – nothing).

    Try starting up your fresh install and see if it recognises your extra internal HD.

    10.04 is very, very good, but it’s still not perfect.

  76. Steve G says:

    ARGH! PERFECT except for one tiny annoyance: HIBERNATED does not work!!! I need my Hibernate to work !!!!!!!!!!!!1

  77. Conk says:

    I spent hours trying to get 10.04 to install. There is a bug when trying yo format a fakeraid. Eventually was able to work around it, but if you’re doing a raid with anything other than a true hardware raid card, you’re in for a challenge…..

  78. Conk says:

    Yo = to,

    And with that said once the system was installed ive been extremely happy!! i7 with 12gb of ram and the thing screams, it makes a awesome development and testing server. Quite a bit faster than 9.10.

  79. Andrew says:

    It looks ridiculously ghetto and I would never want to try it.

  80. Jesse Cooke says:

    I’ve been VERY happy with the upgrade, especially because I installed Lucid on an Intel SSD. Boot times are eye-blinks. 2 gripes though.

    1) I can’t seem to find where to switch the Nautilus location bar from the default tabs to an editable text field. I had found it in previous versions, maybe just missing it.

    2) My favorite Compiz plugin, Grid, is not present! This is a huge bummer for me, as I’m constantly moving windows around the grid via keyboard. I tried following the build steps on the plugin’s page but didn’t have any luck. I hope it’s re-included soon.

    Otherwise, I’m in love with the new UI. I don’t even mind the window bar controls being on the left now!

  81. Jingoro says:

    I have to say, I’m disappointed by Lucid. Karmic was better, in my opinion. I don’t know what it is, but Lucid just feels sluggish. Also, I liked the boot screens better on Karmic.

    Every six months I’m excited to see another version of Ubuntu being released. As soon as I can, I download it and try it out. Then I play with it for a while before going back to Windows.

    Part of this is because Ubuntu hasn’t supported my laptop’s ATI card since Intrepid, but also because it just isn’t “there” yet.

    I don’t mean to bash Ubuntu (or Linux). I’d like to see it succeed. There are times when I might recommend it, but overall I just don’t think it’s ready for mainstream use on the desktop.

  82. David Tussey says:

    I really like Ubuntu on the desktop, and I use it at work along with my MacBook Pro. It’s quite good, and 10.04 is a great, great release. Trust me…I’m sold.

    HOWEVER…there are a few areas where I think improvements are needed. 1) Get a top-rated designer to overhaul the UI…really spice it up and make it seamless and beautiful like the Mac OSX. This is just eye-candy, I know — the functionality is all there — but making the UI a thing of beauty will go a long, long way. Don’t get me wrong, I like 10.04,but it could be better.

    Constantly work on ease of installation of software. I recently tried to add some Oracle software for Python programming (Oracle Client and SDK), and also cx_Oracle. Nightmare. Way, way too hard. The result was I had files installed all over the place, and had a nightmare updating the Paths. Needs improving.

    Finally, OpenOffice…the tool that 90% of out time on the desktop is spent with. It really needs a bit of a UI and functionality overhaul. M/S Office 2007 and 2008 (and soon 2010) are really outpacing OO. Now maybe this will all be moot when the cloud takes over, but in the meantime, I’m concerned about Sun/Oracle’s ability to continue to keep Open Office competitive.

    Okay…now back to the good stuff…and thanks Cannonial! Kudos.

  83. D Bonson says:

    I have been using Ubuntu exclusively since 9.04. I first dual booted 8.10 with Windows XP and ditched windows after using 9.04 for a month. I also got rid of my mac as Ubuntu allows me to have much more control with my computing experience.
    Ubuntu may not be perfect, but it is a superior OS to any offerings available from MicroSoft and Apple.

  84. MacBloSX says:

    This is in regards to the person saying the closest thing to a perfect OS is OSX? REally now? It works out of the box? Install OSX on another computer and see how it works. Of course everything works right out of the box. OSX built by Apple. Mac computers are built by, big surprise APPLE. No shit its gonna work.

  85. Joshua W. Harris says:

    Let’s face it, linux is buggy as hell. Everything from the distros, the xorg server, pulseaudio, desktops, etc. Pick ubuntu and have fun with brasero not blanking cd’s correctly or random programs crashing in the background. Pick kubuntu and what as (in my case) the desktop COMPLETELY shuts down my computer! Upon reboot, ALL of my settings have gone back to the defaults! Pick Xubuntu and prepare to fight with it to share files with other computers or pick lubuntu and pretty much replace pcmanfm with thunar or something more usable. I really like the concept of linux in theory but why do I have to fight my computer just so I can do simple tasks? Hell I’d be willing to pay for a linux that was put together as well as mac osx! It’s depressing that you are more afraid of linux bugs than windows viruses!

  86. Copper apron sink says:

    I’ll stick with win7

  87. Chris says:

    10.04 is good. I’ve been playing with it on an imac G4 just to see if I could find any upsets. Empathy doesn’t seem to work at the moment complaining of CM errors, although it looks like lots of people have been getting this. Going to try doing a clean install instead of upgrade today just to see if things improve. Now im not the most experienced with linux as a whole but I do have a few comments in relation to the above review.

    Ubuntu 10.04 most perfect operating system in the world? I don’t think so. That is an incredibly bold statement and serves only so show your personal bias. Yes it is better than windows 7. From a bloat perspective. Looks better than 10.6 snow leopard, erm no it doesn’t not by a long shot. It does look better than 9.10 but then it looked very very dated indeed. I also guarantee that both windows and osx run a lot more stable out of the box than ubuntu. As someone mentioned above, what happens when you plug a flash drive in?

    As an example and as I say above because im in experienced with linux on a whole, I wasn’t sure if there was any kind of dvd player built in. So I put a disk in to see what would happen. Nothing. If you do the same on a windows pc or mac it just works. This is the difference.

    Perfect. Not by a looooong shot. Needs a LOT more work. However, I fully support the open source community and would love for the day to come when there as an OS for everyone. You just have ot be careful not to warp your views on perfection just because YOU happen to be a clever linux geek. For the rest of us it just ends up being a no go. Sad, but true.

    One statement I will agree with is that ubuntu is by far the easiest version of linux for any user to pickup and try with as a first attempt. BUT it is still just too complicated. The errors can be ambiguous and it doesn’t hold your hand enough in resolving them. I manage usually to fumble around and resolve issues but I put that down to being a technician and having a certain amount of technical ingenuity.

    Video editing comment. So no other operating system comes with a video editor. Fair play. Every mac does ship with ilife though. So every mac user has a copy of imovie. Which without a shadow of a doubt is more polished and user friendly and supported than TiVi

  88. dragoniz says:

    There is no such a thing as perfect, it is true that Ubuntu 10.04 is really-really good (I’m using Ubuntu since the time of Feisty and this is the best release ever… period). Its not about the look and the eye candy, you can customize your desktop, it’s about function. 10.04 works… Ubuntu read my wireless, modem, graphic, and other stuff in my rig ootb. And the bonus is, the stuff is fast, 10 sec to boot up and 3 sec to shut down.
    I am a general computer user… I use windows XP for gaming and doing office chores, I use Mac to work on my pict and vids, and I use Ubuntu for everything else (that include surfing), why?? coz no such thing as perfect
    Mac fanboy said that OSX is perfect… try put it in a PC, its a pain in the ass. A perfect OS should be able to be installed in any comp without hassle (don’t start with.. u cannot do that, you validating the term of use craps)
    Windows….. can’t say much the viruses and the registries speak for them self
    Ubuntu/Linux…. well if all worked like a charm, companies wont spent a single dime on Win-based programs or over-priced Macs
    Just my two cents

  89. Nicolas says:

    You OS X and MS fanboys don’t know shit about what you’re talking about. You can’t expect a linux OS to have the same out-of-the-box experience as your proprietary OS image specially built for your crappy hardware. As for Macs… it’s pretty easy for Apple to figure out how to give a perfect OOBE if they force you to buy their so special hardware.

    Try buying decent hardware from manufacturer that does not has a deal with MS to prevent other OS to work properly like foxconn.

    @Andrew: It looks ghetto ? It’s a default “theme”…, you can’t even change a simple setting now ? See, that’s what proprietary OS’s does to your brain.

    @RobC: Have you tried a USB port ?, Worked flawlessly here.

    @Peter: Your Canon PIXMA does not work out-of-the-box in windows, you had to go through an install from the cd bundled with it, of course it might not work out-of-the-box if that cd is not made for any other OS…

    I hope you guys get that new virus preventing people from posting comments, if that doesn’t exist it should.

  90. Nicolas says:

    I meant, foxconn had a deal to crap out their ACPI table upon detection of any other OS than MS BS, Not that foxconn is a specs-compliant manufacturer.

  91. Dan says:

    I was really disappointed with 10.04.
    In 9.10, everything worked perfectly.
    I don’t have a complex setup, just an HP notebook
    with a docking station and a second monitor attached to that.
    Well guess what: no more dual monitor support.
    This is an LTS release..darn shame..
    I’ll go back to 9.10.

  92. Ron says:

    So, has this been fixed, then? http://www.tuxradar.com/content/how-it-works-linux-audio-explained

    If not, the it’s Macs for me, thanks.

  93. VBWORLD says:

    10.04 LTS is crap. I don’t understand how people judge an OS.

    Ubuntu desktop 10.04 LTS is for desktop users.

    very much Minimum requirement of an desktop user can be Play song and watch a video.

    In ubuntu 10.04 LTS you can watch video. But after sometime, It forget the sound. Pulseaudio is how much buggy in Ubuntu. I can’t belive it.
    Lots of peoples, sit and say this is gold. Without checking what it is.

    1. Pulseaudio sound server is not even stable in 8.04 LTS. I don’t understand what type of support they are given in 8.04 LTS, (support is going to finish in 2011). Pulseaudio crashes like anything.

    If you go to any forum they say’s don’t use pulseaudio. Instead of fixing a problem they tell use somethingelse(use ALSA) .

    Then my question is why they included this crap in there release.

    Open source is good. But don’t try to esacape from things. When they compare other OS and tell hundred thing you should now what is with us. Is it good or bad?

  94. Dennis says:

    @ Bryan: Ha, this must be one of the funniest pieces of freetard propaganda I’ve read this month (applies to some of the comments, too). The problem with such way-over-the-top arguments is that you’re preaching to the choir – regular users don’t tend to get convinced by hyperbolic praise. As for the point you think you’re making, well, although Ubuntu 10.4 is the most user-friendly Linux distro out there, as long as one still needs to delve in countless forums and command-line hacks to get stuff working, Ubuntu remains an OS by freetards for freetards. Good luck with boosting your 1% market share…

  95. chris says:

    10.04 seems like they added a bunch of fluff but didn’t address the underlying issues. Typical Linux design, nobody wants to do the hard stuff (sorting out sound, ACPI, that guy whose camera doesn’t work.. etc) but everyone wants to add fancy, visible features (social network integration, music store).

    This is why you have to pay coders. Doing the hard stuff is stressful, tedious and nobody wants to do it for free.

  96. aikiwolfie says:

    “And just got tired of updates breaking things and having to use a terminal and enter cryptic commands to fix.”

    I’ve read this complaint of Ubuntu quite a lot. Frankly i don’t think it holds water as a reason to abandon Ubuntu. From time to time updates on all OSs will break things. It happens on Windows and Mac OS X all the time and people simply just live with it. And it does happen with other Linux distributions. The X server is a current offender.

    With Windows there very often isn’t even the option to undo the offending update. Certainly not without getting in to some very cryptic DOS-box-fu coupled with some registry hacking. And of course if you bought a retail copy of Windows you’re limited to the number of re-installs you can do.

    Compared to the competition. I’d rather go with Ubuntu. XP SP3 permanently blue screened my main desktop when I tried to install some digital camera drivers that previously worked with XP SP2.

  97. clintec says:

    I just upgraded my M$ Windows neighbor to Ubuntu 10.04 over the weekend. He has never seen or used Linux before… but was ticked off w/ Windows. His is an older desktop with a DWL-520+ wireless card.

    The install went surprisingly well… detected and installed everything correctly for the GeForce 4 MX440 card. Got it all setup, installed the ndiswrapper so that we could get his DWL-520+ up and running. That too worked like a charm!

    Spent about 15 minutes showing him how to navigate, access the internet, his email, his music, shutdown, etc… and he was golden.

    I’m curious to see how this limited computer literate individual gets along. My guess is he will be sold this is the only way to go. Interesting thing is that this OS is about 400% faster on his wireless activity than was his Windows XP. Not certain exactly why that is.. but his internet experience is much improved!

    Everybody wish Mike luck as one of the newest converts to the Linux community.

  98. MadJo says:

    I give you to task to have as much OUT-OF-THE-BOX driver support with a fresh install of Windows as you have with Ubuntu.

    Sure, ultra-rare mega-super-duper non-generic hardware may not be fully supported, but is that Linux’ fault? If hardware manufacturers neglet to release decent documentation, all you have left for Linux developers is trial and error. Talk about tediousness. And yet, hobbyists do it.

    Let’s compare apples with apples, and oranges with oranges. Install a fresh and clean copy of Windows (none of this ‘restore disc’ nonsense, nor any of the “oh I need driver disc X for hardware Y” idiocy) and install Ubuntu 10.04 next to it. And then compare the end results. Still think that Windows is superior?

    Sure, there is stuff left to gripe about. But do that on a level playing field.

    Also the question shouldn’t be “Is Linux ready for the desktop” but rather “Is Linux ready for MY desktop.” Each and every one of you have different demands and wishes for your OS. And some are better served with Windows, some are better served with MacOSX, and some are better served with Linux.

    I’m not saying that Linux is the be-all-end-all for all users, in fact, I’m more inclined to say that it shouldn’t strive to be that, because a jack-of-all-trades is a master of none.
    If *OS works for you, fine. You can try Linux, see if you like its taste, but if it doesn’t work, there are two things you can do, file bug reports and help out with correcting the problems you face or stick with *OS.
    Sure, you may also complain about it, but trashing an entire OS because your exotic hardware didn’t work with it, or because *Application didn’t work for you, is like trashing Windows for a flaw in Notepad or that your old TWAIN scanner didn’t work with Windows 7.

    (*OS & *Application: fill in the blank)

    Yes, I know that audio support on Linux is still iffy, though for most people it works out of the box.
    I, for one, like it that I have the ability with Pulseaudio to record an incoming stream directly to for instance Audacity, I have yet to see that happen on a Windows or a Mac box. That you can set the output of one program as the input of another program.

    I know that there is only fledgling support for video and photo editing under Linux. (haven’t played with Pitivi yet, and GIMP is indeed daunting for new users)
    And that certain (mostly specialised) hardware doesn’t work. And I know that some videocards that used to work under Ubuntu 9.10 suddenly don’t work that well with 10.04. Those kinds of errors can happen with any operating system, it is not just limited to Linux.

    I’ve been a happy Ubuntu user since 2005. Have tried a number of distros along the way, but always came back to Ubuntu, as it just works for me.

    But as always Your Mileage May Vary.

  99. Mackenzie says:

    Harald Sitter is working on Ubuntu One support for Kubuntu for Google Summer of Code. When that’s complete, an Amarok plugin can be made.

    That doesn’t look quite right. Here’s how Ubuntu’s looks:
    http://student.seas.gwu.edu/~mac/files/audio_stack_simplified.png That means that regardless which of the many APIs exist out there for audio, it all gets routed through PulseAudio if it’s desktop-y stuff and JACK if it’s professional audio stuff (like mixing, which requires extremely low latency). Note that Phonon only gets used by Qt/KDE apps.

  100. Mackenzie says:

    That’s a lie. Or a myth. Whatever. Some guy claimed to have found Foxconn’s BIOS intentionally doing things wrong on Linux. As it turns out, the string it was checking to see if it’s Windows…well, Linux reports itself as Windows and has done so for years to avoid silly BIOS issues. So regardless what was in the non-Windows section of their BIOS, it had absolutely no effect on Linux. Matthew Garrett explained this.

  101. Mackenzie says:


    Key items of software are still not installed by default. Lets take MP3 codecs, the Java plug-in for Firefox and Flash. Canonical has free access to this software. Most if not all of it is available in the “Restricted Extras” repository. So just what is it that’s stopping Canonical taking that final step?

    The law.

  102. chris says:

    I’ve read this complaint of Ubuntu quite a lot. Frankly i don’t think it holds water as a reason to abandon Ubuntu. From time to time updates on all OSs will break things. It happens on Windows and Mac OS X all the time and people simply just live with it. And it does happen with other Linux distributions. The X server is a current offender.

    Yeah, but it’s not nearly as common. Corporate produced OSes have QA departments who are paid to make sure that updates go as smoothly as possible. Budgets go a long way towards ironing out bugs. Open source’s attitude towards this is (generally) ‘the community will find these bugs eventually, report them then we’ll fix them’. There are exceptions, but this is a pretty worthless method for testing a product. Most users don’t have the wherewithal to properly stress test products. Internal testing prior to release is very minimal, OSS products tend to have limited budgets and testing is one area that gets skimped on more often than not. So on release day, there are so many issues still present in the build that it practically feels like you’re beta testing it.

    I worked for apple around the 10.3-10.4 era, I remember them pushing out a patch for 10.4.something that ended up breaking the OS for many many, users. We ended up advising people not to run the update until we fixed the issue. It happens to every company, sure. But Ubuntu updating breaks your installation seemingly every release. On top of that, staying with an older version is pretty much impossible. You will be highly limited in terms of available software as people are busy packaging for the newest OS build, stuff like 9.10 falls on the wayside.

    Basically, you’re a fanboy.

  103. Wiredfire says:

    Borked my MBR on my laptop, wifi refused to work on my Netbook. In short it’s been a step backwards compared to 9.10 for me :( Scrubbed it and went back to windows for now.

  104. Lunduke.com » Ubuntu 10.10 - Window Indicators says:

    […] Ubuntu 10.04 out and making the rounds (I hear some people like it), the Ubuntu team is already turning its eyes towards to the next release, version […]

  105. peter says:

    My friend who has taken a dig at us ‘MS fanboys’ back to the PIXMA printer. You are right, I did have to install a driver, but it was a painless experience. Here is how things look with the printer now ….

    1) It works for me under windows.
    2) It doesn’t work for me under Linux.
    3) When I installed it under windows I didn’t have to delve into the command line and change every config file under the sun, I installed a driver and it worked.
    4) I didn’t have to muck around with drivers that people said would work, but didn’t.

    All I know is that this version of linux is good enough for me to browse the internet every now and again, but that is about it.

    Also what I know is that I don’t have enough time to muck around with stuff which I am not confident will ever work. Nothing more frustrating to have to update config files and still have it not work.

    Don’t forget the printer is not my only problem with Linux.

    I like Linux, but it just doesn’t feel professional. MS has the upper hand there.

    Linux has promised a lot, and not delivered. The only bad thing about Windows is the price, but perhaps you get what you pay for?

  106. Mackenzie says:

    Stop supporting companies that only support convicted monopolists? HP printers have great Linux support. Just plug it in, and it goes.

  107. Nicolas says:

    @Mackenzie: Before calling me a liar try to read on the subject. If you had, you’d know that foxconn acknowledged this was a bios bug and finally accepted to fix it. The only thing Matthew Garrett did is being unable to find evidence of a conspiracy. So if there was no bug on the system board ?, Why whould they finally fix it ?

    See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=877721

    @chris: Just like any other version of windows so far, if you want to avoid bugs, don’t get it right on the release date, wait for your “service packs”. About using older release of linux of course your limited to what has been tested and is in the repository, do you think most the Windows7 software is retro-compatible with Windows XP ? And that OS X software is retro-compatible with older darwin-based Mac OS ?. Basically, you just don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Installing an OS should not be done by clueless people anyway. Clueless people should pay someone who knows what he is doing to setup their linux install properly, it will only take a few minutes compared to the tons of drivers you would have to install if installing an OEM windows, or even if you got your recovery disks, you will still have to pay 200$ every six months to the GeekSquad to get them to clean your viruses and all the crap you got installed.

    This is why in the real world there are admins, and there are users.

  108. Bryan says:

    Just going to say this once:

    I don’t like censoring any comments here. But I had to delete one just now that was… just plain not cool. The post in question was purely attacking another commenter in a very mean spirited (and vulgar-laden) way.

    Most of you probably know that it would take a LOT of vulgarity for me to even label something as vulgar. So… think on that. :)

    Please. Keep things civil. Feel free to disagree with me. Feel free to disagree with each other. Just no direct attacking of people here. Cool?

    This isn’t Linux Hater’s blog. This isn’t Boycott Novell. There’s no need for mean-spirited-ness here.

    (Most of you are being completely cool, btw…)

  109. chris says:

    Mackenzie – May 3rd, 2010

    Stop supporting companies that only support convicted monopolists? HP printers have great Linux support. Just plug it in, and it goes.

    So what you’re saying is I should plan my purchases around an OS, buying stuff that may not be as functional so it will work with Linux? That sounds suspiciously like the standard Linux line: If it doesn’t work, you didn’t need to do that anyway. He’s talking about a photo-quality printer anyway, I can’t think of any photo printers that work under Linux.

    So I should buy substandard, underfeatured junk so that I can continue to use my substandard, underfeatured OS. But at least I’ll be free of MS! Yeah, I don’t give a spit about ideology. I want products that make my life and job easier. Windows provides that, Linux provides many extra layers of complexity AND less overall functionality. I have to spend hours googling and pico’ing config files to make my webcam work with the same basic functionality OSX provides out of the box? Sign me up!

    And convicted monopolist? For bundling a web browser with their OS, something that every single other OS vendor does. Linux and OSX get away with bundling products that MS would get sued immediately for including in the default install. IBM is a convicted monopolist, and they spend millions of dollars a year on Linux R&D. A huge chunk of Linux code that you use every day is provided by a convicted monopolist. Google is coming close to a monopoly on internet advertising. But by all means continue to feel like you’re “fighting the man” by using anything except microsoft. The business world could care less.

  110. chris says:


    Being dismissive and smug does not make you correct.

    You come off like a conspiracy theorist “waah waah foxconn in bed with MS to keep Linux down!! everyone’s out to get me!” Get real. People like YOU are the biggest enemy to Linux’s adoption.

    Darwin is the kernel that runs OS X, in your most recent post you made it sound like they are different things. Perhaps you were referring to OS 9 (classic)? The most recent firefox/openoffice will install on windows 2000, and I believe people have even made it run on windows 98. But I am uninformed about technical limitations?

    I am an IT professional with an (expired) CCNA and MCSA. I have worked on and deployed mac, linux and windows shops, administrated 2000+ computer networks (schools). What are your credentials?

    If you’re a troll, congratulations. But I was trying to have a somewhat serious discussion, and if you’re being serious than you pretty much just made yourself look like an idiot.

  111. Nicolas says:


    You realize, you use free software as your examples ? And yet it’s me who’s smug and dismissive.

    If you want to compare credentials, I am also an IT professionnal with a renewed CCNA, MSCA, LPIC-1,2 and 3. I was forced to work with windows and mac more than enough to realize what’s wrong, and now i’m promoting and providing support for thousands of linux-only computer mainly in Macedonia and here in Canada.

    I don’t care much about apple but I know that darwin is not a kernel but a core set of tools that used exclusively the Mach kernel in pre-2k era and now with OS X it merged more than a LOT with the BSD kernel. Try installing your brand new iWork on OS9…

  112. Oliver says:

    I’ve been trying to use Ubuntu since 8.04. I just can’t replicate my Windows setup which is:
    Desktop PC Workstation in one room, which feeds the TV in another room via hole in wall for cabling. IR remote controls XBMC on secondary monitor without interrupting (for the most part) whatever is being done on the primary monitor, and vice versa.
    I would love to hear from anyone that has this setup working in Ubuntu.
    Has multi-monitor setup become as easy as Windows?

  113. Oliver says:

    Just installed 10.04
    Mouse does not work.
    Just as well.

  114. Average Joe says:

    Do you rea

  115. Average Joe says:

    Do you really think Linux can keep up with Windows? The answer is no. Windows is a true operating system which covers everything, when you’re working on windows you feel that it’s a real solid OS not some joke like Linux and it’s distributions, the truth is what you pay for is what you get. Now don’t start your Linux fan boys bullsh** that I’m an MS Fan and never really tried Linux or that I’m dumb noob, NO, I’ve tried Ubuntu before and alot of other distributions like Mint, Fedora, Mandriva, … but it just has a lot of problems that the average person is not ready to deal with, I’ve been using Windows XP for more than 8 years now and I can say it’s simply the BEST, never faced any problem or the “BSOD” in the contrary when I was using Mint it hanged few times with no error message or at least a “Green SOD” and by the way I consider myself an above average technical computer user so I really wanted to find another OS that rivals XP but no luck. You should rethink you’re whole philosophy Linux and start making real OSs.

  116. Kewlrichie says:

    Windows 7 doesn’t come with movie maker because I guess they wanted to keep the install slimmer and maybe because most average windows users don’t use movie maker, who knows. However if u need it you can install it from the MS website it’s called Microsoft Live Movie Maker 2.6

  117. Charlie says:

    The year of Linux is whatever the current is, plus one year.

  118. Grad says:

    “Those amazing 3D desktop effects we all know and love? Those were not a part of Ubuntu 2 years ago. Thats right. 2-dimensional!”

    WTF does that even mean?

  119. Trok says:

    “There is no “vga/safe mode” option for booting into the GUI.”
    Yes there is. Just select the recovery mode (at grub) and select ‘safe mode’

  120. Marshal says:

    Also had problem installing Ubuntu 10.04. I was doing a clean install on a machine that was running Ubuntu 8.04.
    Couldn’t get the graphical interface to load at first, network card didn’t work and a usb ethernet adapter that worked on previous version didn’t seem to work either.
    The machine was running on an Sis chipset (sempron processor) and an old Ati graphic card.

    I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on that machine and it runs fine… go figure out !

    Now Ubuntu 10.04 does seem like a pretty good release.

    The new styling is definitely a change from the brown. Personally I am not a big fan of the new colour or the new wallpaper but it’s not worse than before for sure.
    The fact they didn’t ship new version of all the icon shows that they should have spend some more time into it IMO.

    The appstore, ubuntu one and social integration are definitely taking interesting direction. This kind of differentiation is definitely good for Ubuntu.

    Overall it’s a solid gnome desktop… easy to use but not mind blowing IMO. What’s happening on the KDE side of things really deserves some more love IMO. KDE 4.3 on Opensuse 11.2 is still a bit too buggy but hopefully the new version will be better.

    What I am really sceptical of Ubuntu release methods. LTS are just as buggy as standard release.

    I think they should try to put more support on the LTS release and less on the standard version. The number of version they have to maintain right now is just crazy.

  121. Nkoero. says:

    Give me Office2010/Outlook/Nokia Ovi Suite on linux and then that will be the year of the Linux Desktop. Every year for the last 10 years has been the year of the Linux Desktop. Unless it is a work Desktop, Linux will not be widely accepted. It is fine for personal use, but not for business use, unless you are a developer and dont need excel (calc is not a replacement for excel) and the other fantastic office stuff from MS. Right now Cygwin is the only hope for me as I must use Windows to remain compatible with the rest of the business/development world.

  122. Jaume says:

    Maybe Ubuntu 10.04 is almost perfect. I’ve been using Ubuntu distros since the 7.04 on my laptop (an old Acer that was very slow on the original XP). The disappointment came when upgrading to 10.04 from 9.10. My laptop simply hangs on the booting when changing to graphics (i think). No wa to solve it (alternate install, install from scratch…). Finally I decided to move to PCLinuxOS 2010. Bye Ubuntu…

  123. Wyhog says:

    I’ve used Ubuntu since ver 6.06. Initially used both Win XP and Ubuntu but went straight Ubuntu (with a VMware VM for the rare occasions Win XP is necessary) a couple of years ago. 9.10 was working perfectly.

    I upgraded my Dell desktop from Ubuntu 9.10 to 10.4 yesterday. It wouldn’t boot after the upgrade. I had to boot a Live Cd and search the web for a solution which was to use a bunch of terminal commands on grub. that got it to boot. But no sound. Another search told me to delete the pulseaudio directory in my home directory. That got me sound. I leave a USB hard drive permanently connected with my data on it. Ubuntu 10.4 allows me to read/write it but none of the desktop launchers I had on 9.10 will work. Seems my launchers and my scripts cannot access the USB drive (permission denied) but I can access that same drive with everything else.

    I’m going back to 9.10


  124. Steven Grey says:

    Great Review. I haven’t checked linux out in a while and decided to virtualize 10.04 in Virtual Box. I was shocked at how well it ran. It booted insanely fast and everything worked.

    When my net-book comes it, I am definitely wiping 7 starter and loading ubuntu 10.04.

  125. Andrew says:

    Now it’s even more perfect.


    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, with H.264 licensing.

    Now you can watch your favorite lolcat videos on youtube on Linux without the MPEG-LA knocking on your door!

  126. peter says:

    Right on chris.

    Anyway thought I would add something else, when I installed Ubuntu 10.04 I was presented with a progress bar.

    Sound pretty normal … until the progress bar went over 100% … 200% … 300% … 400%.

    Anyway that didn’t really fill me with confidence.

    Still using my Ubuntu installation 10.04 to browse the net. Works quite nicely (except for the printer and ipod).

  127. Jon says:

    Perfect??? I can’t even get it to install on my system when Jaunty (9.04) has absolutely no issue. There have been some major structural changes since 9.04 (the removal of HAL), and right now the Ubuntu developers need to step back and fix what they’ve broke instead of adding new features. If anybody senses frustration, it’s not because I’m disgusted. No, but rather, I feel I’m missing out on something really cool! I wan’t 10.04 so bad and can’t have it because it’s BROKE (and this isn’t just me–see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9237993#post9237993 for more details)!

  128. Isaac says:

    Linux saved the NGO I work for tons of money because it’s solid, secure, and featured. We made the switch in 2006, and while the learning curve took some time, we can now do a lot with only a little resources.

    That kind of success isn’t really possible with Mac or Windows (darn you CALs!); however, the flip side is that windows or mac will likely do some home desktop/laptop things much better. I wouldn’t recommend linux to the average home user as it’s probably like giving a 4 year old a jackhammer, but to a clever IT professional linux is a like a brush in the hands of Michelangelo!

    All that to say Ubuntu will likely remain on the desktops of the systems I administer for some time yet (unless I finally decide to knock it off with something hard core like CentOS so I can run Satellite).

  129. xvader says:

    in the past 4 month, i used hackintosh. but now, i can’t wait to back to ubuntu :D

    *waiting and waiting the repository dvds to come to my home, move on, mr postman…* :P

  130. Jules T says:

    I’d class myself as a computer novice but I switched to Ubuntu about 2 months ago and then upgraded to 10.04 the day it came out. Having used windows since the day 3.11 came out, I’ve become more and more frustrated with Windows operating speed, compatibility with external devices and virus attacks leading to frequent complete reinstalls of windows taking several hours each time. As a home user with fairly average requirement from an O/S I think 10.04 is superior to both 9, and windows in just about every way. I’ve had no issues with any hardware or the upgrade itself. Installation of Ubuntu takes a tenth the time and the O/S runs and boots smoothly and quickly. My only comment would be the support community language sometimes goes over my head as a novice Linux user, but given the spirit of Linux, I’m willing to learn. I’d recommend Ubuntu 10.04 to anyone who’s struggling with Windows or who just fancies a change.

    I noted the following on someone’s post the other day which rings true: “Computers are like air conditioning units, they work fine until you open windows”.

    To anyone involved with the building and support of Ubunutu; Well Done and Thank You!

  131. NeitherShadow says:

    WTF are you smoking? I’m fairly certain you downloaded and installed the WRONG system, because Ubuntu 10.04 is by far, without question, undeniably the WORST operating system ever released in the history of GNU/Linux. It is absolutely horrible!

  132. Jeff Hoogland says:

    I really like 10.04 alot! It is just a shame I am stuck with 9.10 on my netbook that sports a GMA500 graphics card. @#$!ing Intel. :-/

    ~Jeff Hoogland

  133. Dave says:

    Now if Ubuntu would properly interact with my cell phone as a USB storage device . . . .

  134. Stone says:

    Sorry to disagree. I was a Linux users for years on the Win9x days, but later Microsoft got their act together.

    Windows 7 is so nice that I can only look at Ubuntu as some kind of joke, where things work or fail randomly and there is no sense of software engineering whatsoever.

    I still like the idea of Linux, and I’d really like it to become a true competitor, but deep and bold changes would be necessary for that. It’s just not going to happen with the current approach of putting everything together somehow every few months. It’s always gonna be hit or miss, which means users are not gonna come, which means mass commercial software for Linux is not gonna happen either.

  135. Robert says:

    Ubuntu 10.04 is fanstatic. I have it on my desktop as duel boot to select either Windows XP or U10.04. No problems with the install. Most of the time I use Ubuntu, have very little to to use Windows anymore.
    For my Laptop that did have 9.04 installed I took a backup of the my files and then did a full install of 10.04. Then copied back my files. No problems encountered.

  136. Werner says:

    Awesome, Ubuntu made me proud. I haven’t installed it yet, as I have to do a assignment for University on Ubuntu. So waited till this release and after other assignments were done. Now is the time to install and enjoy!

    Does anyone have troubles with Dual booting? I heard there were some sort of a bug, but think it was only on the Disks being mirrored.

    Windows 7 is just great, and I’ll keep it for few reasons. Games, and a few windows only apps. But can’t wait for steam to finally get released for LINUX! WOOT!

    My rating is 9.1/10 for 10.04
    My dream would be, a light Ubuntu version on the Ipad! with FLASH!!

  137. Gerhard says:

    No,no,no. Install “namebar”, then remove the title bar on maximised windows with Compiz to get some more real estate… and THEN it is perfect!

    It should also be possible to buy proprietary software through the software centre (think SPSS, Photoshop, games, etc.), then NOTHING will stop this train!

    Indrukwekkend! Dankie, Mark Shuttleworth.

  138. Latest version of Ubuntu says:

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  139. Mike says:

    I installed on an IBM T60 thinkpad. Only issue I’ve had is that every so often when I boot, it hangs shortly after starting the boot process. I restart and it runs fine. In spite of this, I love it!

  140. mark C says:

    I cannot get my wireless to work on my Aspire 5741G. Any assistance? I am somewhat disappointed.

  141. Sri says:

    I dont have any issues upgrading my 9.10 too.. 10.04 looks just awesome !!

  142. flj says:

    @ Mike-Linux-NL: this might help you: http://radu.cotescu.com/2009/11/05/flipped-images-ubuntu-webcam/

  143. Jonathan Gallagher says:

    Holy Moly!

    Ubuntu 10.04 is amazing. I have a HP G61 448CA, and Ubuntu 9.10 nor Mint got my soundcard or builtin microphone working right.

    They ditched the brown! Finally!

    It’s a truly brilliantly done linux, especially if you’re on a laptop with decent resources (mine is happy running a typical number of applications at around 450-500mb memory and AMD-AthlonII dual core w/ 4gb avail ram)

    Thank you Ubuntu!

  144. Mackenzie says:

    HP makes Linux-compatible photo printers. My mom has one. And yeah, um people *do* tend to take OS into consideration when buying hardware. If the box said it only supported OSX, and you only had Windows, you wouldn’t buy it anyway and then whinge, would you?

  145. Guy McLaren says:

    I am working on Vista because my server is broken. It locks up once the GUI is started. I have searched high and low for a fix, but nothing there. I was using the last LTS 8.04 and it was OK, no sound though. This upgrade is making me reconsider Windows, At least you can find solutions.

    All my data is on my server. As soon as it is transferred I am going with Windows 7. It cannot be any more buggy.

  146. Robert says:

    The changes in 10.04 seem counterproductive to me. I dropped Ubuntu and made the switch to PCLinuxOS. I like it a lot better.

  147. Billy Bob Clayton says:

    I have been back and forth with Ubuntu. 9.10 was the closest thing available for me that worked quite well.

    I support 60 Linux boxes here at work, and like having a *nix box for ssh and the likes. I also support just under 40 windows boxes as well.

    1. I upgraded to 10.04, now when I boot I drop down into initramfs and have to type in lvm vgchange -a -y to get my system to boot.
    2. After update I had to boot into single user mode to fix the graphics.
    3. No RDP (rdesktop, remmina) or anything of the sort supports cifs
    4. on 10.04 flash broke, can’t view videos on liveleak but finally got youtube working.
    5. Email is crap if you can’t do imap or pop, try to hook up to an exchange mailbox with Exchange Web Services (2007 or newer 2010), some support for 2003 or before with webdav but nothing else. Oh yeah let me run cross over or something else no the best way was to just install mac in a VM and run apple mail.
    6. I do have a macbook pro that I have run for 3 years and it mostly got it all done for me.
    7. Enterprise applications like Remedy and Visio you mine as well forget about it.

    Linux is great as a non graphical server, I have systems that have been running for over 3 years, but as a Enterprise Desktop it is not ready, sure you can bang around and get most of it working but when I install windows and secure CRT I am running all day with no issues. With my ubuntu box I am always fixing something.

    10.04 was a step back for me from 9.10, at this point I think I am going to put win 7 back on and just run ubuntu in a vm for some of the things that I really like doing in a linux world.

  148. MikeA says:

    As much as I’ve supported Ubuntu and Linux in general it just (banging head on desk to keep the beat) support! commercial! software!

    I know I know, I wish I could just migrate without a hitch, as a simple desktop I could but it just isn’t possible yet! To this day I cannot think about commercial companies not taking advantage of this solid working environment without wanting to throw something! GaaaahhH!

    And if you haven’t guessed yet I am indeed one of those graphic designer types. I started way back when in the days of big camera’s darkrooms, waxer machines and exacto knives.

    And yes, there are alternatives. But they aren’t something I can just plug into the workflow. The life of an Adobe whore really stinks.

    Some love from Adobe and better battery life for laptops and I’d be on board in a second.

  149. Wayne Moaha says:

    Perfect? LOL! Better than OS X? Guffaws!

    Let’s try this little experiment: how to get started in computing with OS X versus Ubuntu:

    OS X: Pick one of the high quality machines from the Apple store and buy it. When it arrives, plug it in, turn it on, create your account and you are done. Surf, create, and enjoy the best desktop experience ever engineered. No fuss, no muss.

    Ubuntu: Struggle for weeks to find some hardware that may or may not work from some random PC maker, god knows what kind of quality hardware you get. Find the right “iso” file from Ubuntu and burn it to a blank DVD using that expensive copy of Windows 7 you *had* to buy when you bought the PC. Spend the next 2 hours struggling with answering obtuse questions about sound cards and account settings. Reboot, discover that the video card was not detected properly and spend the next 4 hours attempting to follow some bizarre and unintuitive command line instructions to fix the problem. 50 reboots later you may have a basic desktop running if you are lucky. Now try to log in and attempt to actually use it, again you’ll need to find instructions somewhere on how to work with the non-standard and un-intuitive user interface in order to do even the most basic tasks. Then you find that when you need some software like Office or Photoshop you are out of luck, and you will need to go back to that copy of Windows 7 that came with the machine in the first place. Even when you want to install something from the extremely limited software library, you can’t just simply drag and drop a single file, no, you have to use some strange proprietary packaging format that requires superuser privileges, and the installation of these packages often fails with inexplicable “dependency” errors, throwing you back to a menu or command line without any clue as to how to proceed. Even updates to ALREADY INSTALLED applications often fail with similar errors. Want to play mp3 files or DVD movies? Too bad, Linux doesn’t support that because Ubuntu is too cheap to buy proper licenses.

    In summary, is Ubuntu perfect? Far far from it. It doesn’t really matter how many licks of paint you apply to Linux to make it look like OS X, it is STILL Linux underneath, and as such it is still full of bugs, security holes, and it still lacks even the most basic of usable applications (GIMP and OpenOffice don’t cut it, sorry), it still has poor hardware support (particularly for such basic devices as iPod’s and iPad’s) and cannot even reliably do the simplest of tasks you expect of a modern operating system.

  150. Michael says:

    The fact that Canonical is going to give a free three years support for the New Ubuntu makes it the best OS around for now. Well, the Benefit/Cost analysis of running an Ubuntu on a Desktop or Laptop out-performs the uses of Windows or Mac. Are we talking about the free excellent Software like Firefox, Open-office, Evolution/Thunderbird,Anti-virus free, etc. And the comparable cost of having Windows/Mac(software) on a Windows or Mac is unthinkable. Well, I have been able to liberate myself and my family from the Microsoft and Mac hold. All the five PCs in the House are either running Free software or Ubuntu OS(With the Windows software that came with the PCs completely removed) because I hate to be buying the Anti-virus Software every year. And everything you want to do on the Windows/Mac the Ubuntu can do, and in some cases even better and faster for free.You cannot beat that. Good job Canonical keep it up!

  151. Eru says:

    Even I wish that they include DVD playback someday. I’m sure there are many others like me, who want the same. I hope they pay heed this time :-/

  152. MikeA says:

    @ Wayne Moaha

    From what you’ve written I’m assuming you have no experience setting up an Ubuntu Linux desktop. Where are these DVD .iso’s you speak of?

    Spend the next 2 hours struggling with answering obtuse questions about sound cards and account settings.. Where was this? Did I miss something?

    50 reboots later you may have a basic desktop running if you are lucky.
    You seem to be trailing off here, maybe you’re speaking of Windows 98?

    Your an odd one.

  153. George Herberson says:

    Works great on my Dell Latitude D610. Everything JUST WORKS… hardware, audio, video, etc. I haven’t needed to go to the command line ONCE since installing 10.04 a week ago! The startup/shutdown times are closing in on OS X / Windows 7, and the suspend/resume time is closing in on OS X. Excellent work!

  154. c0l2e says:

    Please support FOSS and Linux and stuff. Not just using it but also to donate in cash or in availing supports..In that way it will exist much longer.

  155. Chris Beacham says:

    I love Ubuntu and I’m very happy with the new release. I had zero problems with the install.

    But perfect? If we are talking about making an OS usable by non-geeks….I don’t think so.

    I’m not a uber-geek but I’ve used Ubuntu for a long time. I cannot believe that I actually have to edit the fstab to have access to both of my hard drives by default! That is so frustrating. All I can say is WTF?

  156. Gnobuddy says:

    @Wayne – yes, OSX is perfect – which is why OSX on my wife’s $2000 Mac has *never* managed to print to either of the two networked computers in our home, while every Linux distro I’ve used in the last six years – on DIY $400 PC’s built from whatever mobo/case is on sale at Fry’s Electronics – has done so with less than five minutes of setup.

    For that matter, OSX just died completely on my wife’s Mac two days ago. I popped in a Linux Live CD (PCLinuxOS 2010, LXDE version) and got her going in minutes. Those two networked printers, of course, worked immediately. One of these days we will dig up her OSX install DVD and reinstall from it, after which she will again lose access to our color laser printer. Nothing like paying five times the money for the same PC hardware only to end up with less functionality – you go, Apple!

    On the topic of this article, I have used several Ubuntu/Kubuntu releases. Every one has had various nagging issues, mostly with sound and multimedia. Kubuntu 10.04 was also dog-slow compared to OpenSUSE 11.2 on the same hardware, and K3b in Kubuntu could not burn anything successfully, though command-line burning (cdrecord) still worked. In short, Kubuntu 10.04 felt like being dumped back into 2002, when I had to type “cdrecord -v –eject -speed=4 –device=/dev/hdc……” and so on just to burn a CD.

    I will try out Ubuntu 10.04 as well, in case it works any better than its portly Kubuntu sibling. But to this point I’m still preferring the now ancient PCLinuxOS 2009 with KDE 3.5.x to ANY of the newer Gnome or KDE distros with their bloated and slow new desktops. PCLinuxOS 2009 is not as flashy, but it runs much faster, does what I need, and doesn’t seem to break. A Gentoo install would surely speed things up a little more, but I’ve suffered through that week-long tedium enough times this decade – I’m not keen to do it again!

    I’ve been using Linux only (no Windows) since 2001, love the Free/Open Source philosophies, and would be very pleased to see Linux succeed more widely on the desktop. And yet, after 9 years of continuous Linux use, I’m sad to say, I still find the majority of Linux distro’s out there are just garbage when it comes to quality control, including some of the big ones (Fedora, OpenSUSE, I’m looking at you now – shame on you for some of the things you’ve released lately!).

    It seems to me there are now only a handful of distro’s that are even worth trying – Mint, PCLinuxOS, maybe Slackware or Arch if you want to invest the time. I know K/Ubuntu is the most popular distro out there, and I’ve used both, but I always find something (or many somethings) missing from the experience. For instance, every *buntu I’ve used had sound issues – forget to quit that Youtube page before starting Amarok, and you would get no sound, because only one app at a time could use the sound card. No such problems on PCLinuxOS 2009.


  157. Guy says:

    I am an Ubuntu LTS user. I like Lucid in many ways but I do consider pulse audio a step backwards. I use Ubuntu as a music studio & I am having problems that I have never had with Ubuntu before (& I have used every LTS release).

    Good yes, perfect … no.

  158. JonScott says:

    Well I own an Acer Aspire One netbook with Windows XP installed and I also own a first generation Intel Macbook.

    The Macbook is fantastic and in over 4 years, I have never had a problem with Tiger OSX. Excellent software and bullet proof hardware despite the debatable white plastic shell.

    I hate Windows XP. It´s slow, unpredictable, and has terrible security issues. I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on it last year but removed it soon after as I found it too buggy. Too may issues with sound, display settings and the software updates were a nightmare. I continually received corrupted file messages so Windows for me ended up being a much better option. Compared to Mac OSX, it´s a bitch to use but it is my only option.

    I tried installing Ubuntu 10.04 earlier this week and guess what…. more problems!!! My wifi card isnt detected! What is the point of producing Ubunt 10.04 full version or Netbook remix if it cannot identify wifi cards??!! I ten went to the help pages and the downloadable file to fix the issue…. didn´t fix a thing. Ubuntu´s driver files are corrupted!! I´ve had enough of trying to get to grips with this system.

    Mac OSX rules everything around in my opinion. I have used Windows 7 and I think it´s pretty decent. Windows XP is awful. Ubuntu…. is just a pain in the ass. I´m sticking with XP.

    You need to be exceptionally technically proficient to get on with Ubuntu. I´m no beginner but I´m no geek either., Ubuntu just doesnt cut it for me. I have all the free, quality software I need on my Mac for power usage. My Netbook will be fine for my writing tasks supported by XP. I also recall Windows having better power efficiency than Ubuntu. This especially important on an Netbook.

    Ubuntu the best OP system in the world? It is know where near this accolade my friends. Nowhere near.

  159. Techwatch says:

    18 months is certainly not very long in the big scheme of things

  160. Steve T says:

    Respect our differences!!!

    Have installed Lucid on 3 computers as dual or triple boot, some slight problems resolved – don’t use Windows much. Ubuntu loads faster, works faster, doesn’t have viruses and is free – so is the vast array of software.

    No that I am being critical of Windows, we would not all be computer users without it. I certainly would not have tried Linux without being proficient in Windows OS.

    Ubuntu lives and progresses because of broadband and the Linux community for which I eternally grateful. Choose which OS suits you – don’t criticise the others – and help where you can.

  161. John A says:

    Respect our differences, sure. But abandon all standards of quality control? Nope.

    I’m backing out of 10.04. There’s a runaway kernel process eating 100% of one of the two CPUs, typing at speed is impossible. The machine is unusable for serious work. I’ve been using Ubuntu since 7.04, Linux of one variety or another since the early 2.2 kernels, and this is the first time I’ve backed out of a upgrade.

    (The bug is known, and reported.)

  162. gansvv says:

    A long time linux user, I jumped at the opportunity to upgrade to 10.04 Lynx. The upgrade went well and the system rebooted. That was all that went well.

    Each bootup operation takes ages now. Windows 7 is a clear winner for bootup time.
    Also, I got an “error while mounting /proc/bus/usb” message and it required me to press S to continue booting up each time. Accepted it was a quick fix and editing /etc/fstab solved it, but do they expect everyone to go through this step after an upgrade?!
    Third, I do not like the default color scheme. Reviews say it is classy and elegant. I say nay nay. It is another one of those weird colors only Ubuntu can throw up on you. Dark and unattractive, the “Lynx Violet” is akin to Win’s Blue S-O-D. Fourth, what is up with Thunderbird 3??!! The cool ajax style search feature is gone and in its place is an antique search that opens a new tab and shows a crappy interface for messages with preview. Did they not learn anything from scrolling the mouse over bing.com search results?
    I could go on and on.. but my point is that 10.04 Lynx is the worst upgrade decision I ever made. Hopefully it will not make it abandon linux altogether.
    p.s: Whose decision was that to put the window buttons on the left? Awesome! (surprised?) Yes, I think thats a bold UI move and it saves time to perform those tasks once you get used to it. Probably the only thing I like here.

  163. Bill Melater says:

    Wrong. It won’t run certain critical .net apps, turning a winXP computer into a door stop.

  164. Terrance says:

    Not everyone has the luxury of spending all day and night testing, exploring, and configuring a new OS. I am not a IT, but have had the opportunity to spend countless hours doing just this. Here is an absolute truth. The OS you use, is strictly contingent upon your needs and desires. Let’s not forget the state of the US economy. Many individuals simply do not have the monetary resources to purchase a big boy OS like Windows7 or Mac OS.

    In so far as the Linux-Unix-Windows-Mac comparison goes, I can only comment on Linux and Windows. Like many others, I love Ubuntu 10.04, and did not have any issues installing. I used the Wubi installer for Windows, and utilize dual boot.
    This procedure goes off without a hitch for me, and allows me to have both Windows and Ubuntu without the need of CD. More importantly, booting directly from the hard drive is much quicker.

    Recently, I downloaded, burned, and installed PCLinux2010 KDE, so now my boot menu is of that flavor. In short, I now have 3 OSs installed. At first the KDE desktop was a nightmare to configure. Setting up panels, learning how to use multiple desktops, etc. Once again, I have nothing but time on my hands, and embrace all the challenges that arise with each new install.

    Here is the conclusion to the matter. If you have time, and a decent level of patience, give all the available operating systems at your disposal a go. Not only is it fun for someone that has the ever elusive gift of time on their hands, one will discover a much more diverse, expanding, enhancing computer experience.

  165. John Galt says:

    I’m new to Linux/Ubuntu and just loaded up a fresh built Shuttle with Lucid and love it. After Vista I decided that MS would never get another penny from me.

    I would like to give Ubuntu 10.04 a five star rating, but I noticed that it didn’t have a foot massage function, it wasn’t ready to cook me dinner, and it was useless when I tried to use it to paddle my canoe. In light of these shortcomings I have to give it a 3 star rating.

    If anyone from CNET is reading this, consider this my resume and please consider me available for a job as a reviewer.

  166. Ruther Ang says:

    I just install my ubuntu 10.04 64 bit

    everything works fine except the sound

    the sound was loud -> good
    but the sound sounds like it was under water or something very horrible.

    Anyone knows how to fix this, the previous versions doesn’t sound like this… and the sound preference… where is the control there?

  167. Jackie says:

    awesome review, I upgraded my web server with no problems ;)

  168. Patrick says:

    Liked the review.

    My only problem was tweaking wireless a bit,
    but little.

    I do have one issue though. When I run my HP G61
    series laptop with AMD chip in Ubuntu 10.4 its
    fine with the electric current. However, on battery
    it freezes at the sign in screen every time. Anyone
    experience this problem on their laptop?

    Thanks again for the review.

    Appreciate the review.

  169. Bill Melater says:

    Give me Office2010/Outlook/Nokia Ovi Suite…And .Net 3.5 or 4/ClickOnce. Then We’ll talk. To use that, have to run a vm xp, or log on to a windows box. Still not ready for primetime.

  170. imnotrich hartley says:

    A release that refuses to install on laptops or desktops is hardly perfect. I’ve tried the i386 and amd64 version on various hardware and the live cd never gets past the splash screen with the “dots.”
    Kindofa dealbreaker if I can’t get to the command line or a gui. Back to the drawing board, Ubuntu. Please don’t release versions that are not ready, it’s environmentally unfriendly. I have ruined many cd’s with this pathetic version.

  171. Robert says:

    Great review. As for installation I had no problems installing it on my Acer desktop in dual boot mode and a full install on my Acer 5510 laptop. Boot time is about 45 seconds.

  172. tausef says:

    Greatest release by ubuntu ever.

  173. Technet Computers says:

    In responce to network shares not being seen, Jason sounds like you need to install SAMBA, that has solved all my network shares issues

    Regarding the following post:

    My biggest issue with ubuntu is networking. It won’t see computers on my network. Certainly won’t see my WHS box. OSX sees it just fine but for the life of me I can’t get ubuntu to see. Posted on the official forums and never got a response.

  174. craig davidson says:

    love the look of 10.04, but had to revert to 9.10 as new version would not work with netgear wifi card, also ubuntu still needs to develope it dissability options, it is getting ther but still keeps a lot of willing users away.

    Generaly all good with the newone as it works very well on home PC and even the wife like it

  175. ray hartman says:

    Well … no! Ubuntu 10.04 LTS just doesn’t cut it for Lusrland.

    It’s been a month since I first installed LuxxyLynx … and the common services ** printer/sound/vidcam ** still randomly appear/dis-appear on my system. Like sparkley will-o-the-wisps on a foggy lake — so vanish those basic functions; hahaha the poetry is totally lost on 6-G Crucial & AMD_quad kit.

    Face it palsies: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is a failed experiment in non.structured sys.coding that honestly would make DOS_6.22 blush!

  176. Griggz says:

    I updgraded both of my desktop from 9.10 without a problem — loving it.

    Also and experimenting with it on my wife’s Acer Aspire One netbook. Works well booting from a USB. Who knows I might be able to convince her to wipe to that other OS in favor of Ubuntu.

  177. dan says:

    ubuntu 10.04 is really good and work well on my old pentiun iii machine. will definently be deleting windows if favour of ubuntu as my windows is falliing apart and there are errorrs all over the place. having a problem getting wine and setting up wired network connections as they allow access to printers and computers but not the internet. any one know why this is

  178. jez says:

    I have been using ubuntu on my laptop since 8.04 was released. I have an old toshiba equium L20, which has been upgraded with 2gb of ram instead of the crumby 256mb. From 8.04 i went to 8.10. Both worked flawlessly out of the box. I had graphics and the utter useless pulseaudio issues with 9.04 and 9.10, so i was hoping 10.04, being an LTS would be the answer, how wrong was i!

    I am just another average member of joe public, i don’t do programming, i don’t do IT, and i don’t faff about with computers, in other words, i am one of those that ubuntu is trying to convert over from M$.

    I did a fresh install of 10.04 a month ago, and i say right now, that 10.04 is the biggest pile of excrement i have ever had the misfortune to use. Not so much that window buttons being on the wrong side or the fact gimp (which i use alot) was missing, and that purple is not a pleasant colour for any os, but the fact that wireless no longer worked, and even using ethernet, the net was like being back on dial up. Changing ipv settings in firefox stops firefox from remembering passwords (when you use forums alot this is extremely annoying). Youtube videos are unwatchable. Cannot use desktop effects as it freezes the system within seconds of startup, so compiz was a big no no. ATI graphics card drivers? Hahahaha!!!! Software centre very slow and crashes, Amarok 2 wouldn’t play anything, oh dear, 1.4 no longer available, unless of course i start faffing about with it….boring!

    As 8.10 is no longer supported i ended up back on 8.04. And guess what? It all WORKS! But i’ll be buying a mac when 8.04 is no longer supported.

    Maybe, if they spent more time making it work rather than super dooper fast boot times, then ubuntu may make it into the mainstream.

  179. Janus Daniels says:

    jez, I’ve never heard of problems like yours with 10.4; have you tried fresh reinstalling?

  180. Jack Perez says:

    Yesterday I installed Ubuntu 10.04 and it work fine, and every thing work on my Asus Eee PC 1005 HAB netbook. I was very happy, but today I install the updates and the screen keeps flashing off and on. Not good. I am going to search for a solution, and see what happens.

  181. Josh says:

    Hi Ubuntu does have options for people with disabilities. try the universal access menu, or press alt f2 type orca hit enter. You might also try vinux at http://www.vinux.org.uk and http://vinuxvirtual.org.uk . I run vinux based on Ubuntu in vmware under windows7 with no problems at all. Had trouble installing office that is open-office, but once I hot control alt tab, went to update manager and updated then openoffice was installed fine.
    Oh and guys one other helpful tip if you don’t like typing in commands into command lines then why not just copy and paste? and did you know the tab key will autocomplete commands for you so you don’t have to type them out? In gnome alt f1 gets you to the application menus alt usually brings up menu bars. All we need now is good speech recognition for Ubuntu/vinux.
    Oh and to you people who say you will not use linux unless you can use adobe photoshop and dot-net and ms-office 2010. Then just stick with windows or use windows inside of vmware. Linux is not windows and windows is not linux and mac is not windows either. that’s why they make virtual machines people. In fact I myself run windows xp inside of vmware in windows7 on my macbook pro where windows7 is installed onto the bootcamp partition. Why do I do this? I run windows xp inside of windows7 in vmware because I cannot play most of my audio games such as entombed or games from http://www.kitchensinc.net in windows7 64bit. they don’t work. But I really like windows7 because by using http://www.satogo.com I can dictate text into my computer and get stuff done faster. Normally I use NVDA and I also use the nvda screen reader in my windows xp vmware virtual machine. I also downloaded a windows98 virtual machine so I can do some podcasts about some older software that only runs in windows98 and also inside of ms-dos. So I need a windows98 vm to do that. I’m gunna try putting vinux3.0 onto my netbook and if I like it–next machine I get I’ll just make sure it has 4gigs of ram and I’ll use Linux as the host and Run multiple windows systems inside of vmware for linux. Oh and for braille display support Ubuntu and vinux come with brltty. Why not give vinux a try? since you can all see just go into orca preferences and tell it not to start at log on and you’ll be fine. Oh and on my mac I use the free voiceover utility screen reader accessed with command f5 on tiger, leopard, and snow leopard. Also supports braille displays. Oh, also instead of complaining about typing in tons of commands in the linux command line, why not make a script that does it for you when you run it and put a shortcut on the gnome desktop that’d solve your problems. a script is a file containing commands that you want to run in sequence. when you run it all it does is execute the commands. so that is a script in its basic form. Only complaint I have with Orca is the voice but for $5 from oralux.org I can get voxin which sounds much better. But as long as http://www.kitchensinc.net keeps developing in visual basic6 I guess I’ll be running my windows xp virtual machines for a long time. And as long as humanware refuses to upgrade their keynote gold multimedia speech synthesizer I’ll be running my windows98 virtual machine for a long time also because I like that software speech tts synthesizer.

    Josh Kennedy email: jken337 at sign gmail dot com

  182. Sandra says:

    This review on Ubuntu is very strange and funny; claiming being able to compete with the big guys is just not true. At least not if you are targeting the “normal human user” out there.

    a) You can’t play DVDs right out of the box. You have to buy Power DVD Linux in most cases (if using those lib xxx plugins isn’t allowed in your country), which requires you to install the prop. NVIDIA driver, which messes up Plymouth bootup for good. Bluray ppl? Don’t even think of it.

    b) Wanna play a game? Oops, just Wine and Crossover or even Cedega around? The last two being easier for noobs and all but costing you, together with the DVD software, much more than any Windows would cost you PLUS the fiddeling and fighting around to get things to actually just work? Too bad. WINE or anything like that: Performance sucks balls and games are very unstable and can break when updating things. Not even DX9 or 10 are known to work good. Building on weak sticks holding your entire house is not wise.

    c) Want to use something like Quicken, Photoshop or even open up .doc documents, without those getting messed up by Open Office and then being ashamed when sending them to partners and customers using MS WORD (which is still the standard thing to use today), because they look like something went terribly wrong? Yeah, you have alternatives, but they lack most good features and there is only forum support; which brings me to:

    d) Support only in ENGLISH (by phone) and you have to pay via credit card or Paypal. YEAH, right, that’s just great. Reading and writing through forums just isn’t funny after you have done it a thousand times…or if you’re new to this kind of stuff (human).

    e) Most languages are in the system to be used, but many of them aren’t translated to 100%

    f) Lots of tearing on the desktop (with and without Compiz) – reminds me of Windows XP: NO Vsync. IF you use it (for example via Compiz ; Nvidia only), then you are in for some major performance probs, eventually a not working sleep mode due to this and a “not an option” solution for ATI and Intel GMA users. All this transfers over to videos and flash = looking at a video tear on a 42″ (or any screensize for that matter) just makes things..well.. unwatchable? Compiz is nice to play around with, but I see it as a powertoy or sandbox thingy. Just makes things too buggy or sluggish or gives probs (such as tearing).

    g) There are some good enough features for ppl with disadvantages in life, but stuff like “voice command/recognition for the OS” or being able to “dictate to your computer via voice” (in as many languages as possible) is not there. The only solution is poor and in ENGLISH only.

    h) Windows still has it’s prop. – Windows only – software AND all the Open Source software to choose from.

    i) Upgrading from previous versions of Ubuntu still has a bunch of problems. Never worked well for me on a ALL of my computers.

    j) Whoever said Linux or Ubuntu and co. are more stable than Windows or OSX, well, that is not true one bit. It has the same problems, if not more, than the others.

    k) More secure atm, but already a few threats known (having that small user base on desktops) to be able to easily infect the system. No system is 100% secure.

    l) Thousands of Linuxes to choose from (Suse, Ubuntu, Mint, Mandrake,………all that x500 = too many for the normal user) makes things confusing for normal humans.

    and so much more…

    I could go on forever. Many of the mentioned things here are critical things for normal users or business ppl. Ubuntu is getting better but it is still no where close to being a true rival or competition for Windows or OSX. It might one day, but maybe not. I have been hearing that since the 90’s and it’s getting very old now. While Linux is drawing the sky….the others are reaching for the stars and above. It has always been this way (on the human desktop), is this way and even might stay this way. Anyway, no bashing here, just a honest note from my side. xXSandraXx

  183. Sandra says:

    OH, btw, this experimental Nouveau driver; I do not like that kind of stuff in LTS releases.

  184. nate says:

    Just tells us that this review is a joke. Please? Windows 95 is more usable than this mess.

    You know, after watching your linsux presentations I thought there was at least a sane person in the community, still able to keep an objective and critical view. I was wrong, it seems.

  185. RAVI PRAKASH says:

    This is one of the awesome operating system i have never come across and i find that it is a best suite for all the desktops and laptops among all the operating systems available today.

  186. yman says:

    Summary of my post (so you don’t have to read through all my rambling): I’ve used Ubuntu for 4 years on 4 machines. Only one piece of hardware stopped working altogether. I’ve had many other issues and annoyances, but none was major enough to make me think of going back to Windows. Lucid has for me been almost annoyance-free, and considering the fact that all the usual suspects for bad drivers (WiFi, Video) in my case have fully-functioning open-source drivers, I don’t expect to experience any more regressions in hardware support on my main machine. BTW, the non-functioning piece of hardware might be supported now for all I know. I haven’t tried it with any release later than Hardy.

    Lengthy rambling version:
    It’s odd. I keep reading all these complaints about Ubutnu, and yet I don’t encounter anything as earth shattering as what is being mentioned here. In regards to PulseAudio trouble: we got Vista at about the same time as PulseAudio, and I Pulse was hardly more annoying than the sound issues on Vista. Aside from that my video drivers had a slump in performance during Karmic, and a network card that I think was known to be problematic and require hacks stopped working. There were other regressions between releases, but they were so minor I barely noticed them, only realizing they existed when I tried to think of bad stuff in Ubuntu. Just remembered one: Hardy and Intrepid didn’t like going to sleep all that much, so I had to disable Compiz. And I think there may have been a problem that required me to manually turn my Wifi driver, something that the release notes warned about but I decided to go with the upgrade anyway.

    That’s my list of major complaints, of issues that bothered me enough that I would take notice of them, after 4 years of using Ubuntu on 4 computers. That’s 9 Ubuntu releases, for which I have had many complaints about many issues, yet non of those issues really bothered me. Maybe it’s a difference in attitude and expectations. Maybe I don’t expect Ubuntu to run perfectly on computers that were not built for it, and yet am (almost) always happy to discover it runs well enough for my needs. Also another major thing is that while all previous releases of Ubuntu had issues that bothered me, Lucid had not one single problem. PulseAudio runs almost perfectly, the only exception being when Osmos crashes, a problem I only discovered this week. My video drivers are back to their usual performance. The one thing that really is annoying in Lucid is Firefox. I have it remember my sessions, and after a few weeks it starts becoming super sluggish. PlayOnLnux requires me to force it to quit in order for the installation wizard to appear. Deluge can become unresponsive for several seconds when it has a few dozen torrents open.

  187. lg205 says:

    Upgraded from version 8 using the updater tool and wrecked my system, Kernel Panic – VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0). Not Perfect by any stretch of the imagination…

  188. .haNk says:

    10.04 was HORRIBLE. 9.10 was way, way better (screw the boot time). i’m just getting around to installing 10.10. so far it’s looking much better.

  189. Jimmy says:

    They have been scewing somehtings little by little at the expense of dessig an look. But now, with Oneiric, they finally screwed EVERYTHING

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